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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobbler View Post
    Someone who really understands the Toronto market would be helpful for the league. Cracking that nut seems to be the biggest challenge.

    Although... longer term, brain injury lawsuits might be bigger. Maybe we should also prioritize someone who knows a lot about robots, for when human players are phased out.
    Great point. I think litigation; ground sweeping, potential game changing litigation in inevitable in most pro sport. Probably not a great era to be a Commissioner in this era of liability? It's only just begun for the NFL and CFL, and Bettman is really going to get it good soon enough. I suspect they'll have no choice but to ban bare knuckle fighting (but that's another topic). Maybe being a Lawyer will be a pre-requisite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Gonzo View Post
    Great point. I think litigation; ground sweeping, potential game changing litigation in inevitable in most pro sport. Probably not a great era to be a Commissioner in this era of liability? It's only just begun for the NFL and CFL, and Bettman is really going to get it good soon enough. I suspect they'll have no choice but to ban bare knuckle fighting (but that's another topic). Maybe being a Lawyer will be a pre-requisite?
    There's no doubt that the CFL's existence could be threatened because of legal action over past concussions. The NFL coughed up $1B to former players -- the CFL would be put out of business if it were ever ordered to pay even a fraction of that. That said, if and when the league has to fight such action in the courts, it will need the services of an expert legal team of labour and litigation specialists. There's little to no chance, IMO, that the league will look to either of those specialized areas of the law for the commissioner role. For one thing, the league has managed to argue successfully (so far, at least) under labour law that retirees have no choice but to pursue grievances through the union. So there's no imminent danger of some massive lawsuit hitting the league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Someone who really understands the Toronto market would know that the Argos are destined to be a niche product: one that can make a profit and keep a fanbase engaged, but not one that will compete (revenue-wise) against the big teams in town. Any expectation beyond that makes no sense IMO.
    That's silly, Paul; there's a yawning gap between "keep a fanbase engaged" (which is the bare minimum for league survival) and "compete against the big teams in town" (fantasy). The goal of the commissioner should be to put the Argonauts on a path for healthy growth of revenue and exposure, and commissioner with Toronto experience would be more likely to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobbler View Post
    That's silly, Paul; there's a yawning gap between "keep a fanbase engaged" (which is the bare minimum for league survival) and "compete against the big teams in town" (fantasy). The goal of the commissioner should be to put the Argonauts on a path for healthy growth of revenue and exposure, and commissioner with Toronto experience would be more likely to succeed.
    I said "make a profit," too -- something that has not been done in decades in this market. Clearly (as my previous posts have made clear), sustainable revenue growth is at the top of the list of desired attributes for the next commissioner. I was simply responding to the notion that the next commish has to understand the Toronto market. If he/she thinks the Argos can be anything other than a (potentially) profitable small player in the local sports scene, they're not understanding this market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Someone who really understands the Toronto market would know that the Argos are destined to be a niche product: one that can make a profit and keep a fanbase engaged, but not one that will compete (revenue-wise) against the big teams in town. Any expectation beyond that makes no sense IMO.
    SO - Ottawa - a CFL franchise that floundered for years with dumb & poor ownership and lousy teams, that saw weak attendance at times and folding twice - can rebound to sell-out crowds and fantastic local support/interest - with a sharp new (and local) ownership group and revamped stadium. BUT the Toronto Argonauts - historic football club - who once had something like 40 thousand season ticket holders, and who play in a demographic of around 5 to 8 times larger than Ottawa - are condemned forever to a bottom dwelling sports niche product in the big Toronnawannabe land city?

    Hmm; interesting - thinking & attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    There's no doubt that the CFL's existence could be threatened because of legal action over past concussions. The NFL coughed up $1B to former players -- the CFL would be put out of business if it were ever ordered to pay even a fraction of that. That said, if and when the league has to fight such action in the courts, it will need the services of an expert legal team of labour and litigation specialists. There's little to no chance, IMO, that the league will look to either of those specialized areas of the law for the commissioner role. For one thing, the league has managed to argue successfully (so far, at least) under labour law that retirees have no choice but to pursue grievances through the union. So there's no imminent danger of some massive lawsuit hitting the league.
    I would leave that to the lawyers. I have been saying it for a decade; liability and insurance will threaten professional sports to the core. Especially the dumb ones. I think the NHL is cruising for a bruisin.' Bettman is a lawyer, and he won't be able to prevent it, so making a lawyer Commissioner doesn't make it go away, true. It may not be the magic elixir but it just helps with a broad general understanding of the Law. How can this not be helpful. It's for this reason (and many others) that you'll see a man with a legal background, on the short list for this job.

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