Foley Released

**ArgoGabe22** · 03-31-2017, 10:47 AM

Is anyone surprised? He's deleted the tweet but said (paraphrasing): "released via text message from the Assistant GM. Keep it classy".

**Will** · 03-31-2017, 10:48 AM

I guess he didn't agree to restructure his contract.

**mchesher03** · 03-31-2017, 11:16 AM

Surprised it took this long. We can wax on about his off-field involvement, etc.– all great things that can be commended.

Simple fact is he didn’t produce much last year and he’s turning 36 years old this year? Writing was on the wall.

Maybe he catches on elsewhere but somehow I doubt it. We’ll see though.

**Will** · 03-31-2017, 11:17 AM

I am not a huge fan of the way he was allegedly released, but was he really generating the production expected from the DE position? Fact is that the D-line was porous last year and aside from Lemon not particularly effective at the pass rush.

**AngeloV** · 03-31-2017, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Argofans.com

I am not a huge fan of the way he was allegedly released, but was he really generating the production expected from the DE position? Fact is that the D-line was porous last year and aside from Lemon not particularly effective at the pass rush.

It's too bad IMO. I don't think he was nearly as bad as some people that only look at stats think he was. Lemon was playing the weak side of the field which is more of the rush end spot, and Foley as a result had a lot more outside contain responsibilities. His speed really works well at that spot.

**Jon Gonzo** · 03-31-2017, 11:30 AM

Football is a cold business, but 35 year old expensive football players who are trending the wrong way with chronic injuries -- shouldn't take it personally. It's almost a no brainer for a GM. Ricky was one of the finest Canadian DE's ever. 3 time Grey Cup winner and an MVP. Get fitted for the Hall brother, you done good.

**Neely2005** · 03-31-2017, 11:30 AM

They should really at least pick up the phone and call him. I think that any player deserves at least that much.

**Jon Gonzo** · 03-31-2017, 11:40 AM

Absolutely they should, but there must have been some interchange going on if he was offered a re-structured contract? On another front; I think the Argos will draft a DE or LB with the 10th pick. Malumba, Boeteng, Mackie....

**gilthethrill** · 03-31-2017, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Neely2005

They should really at least pick up the phone and call him. I think that any player deserves at least that much.

The article posted in 3downation made mention that the Argos tried contacting Foley by phone several times. What else could they have done? Go knock on his door?

**Gill The Thrill** · 04-01-2017, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Neely2005

They should really at least pick up the phone and call him. I think that any player deserves at least that much.

I heard they did call him and they got no response...would a voicemail message have been better?

Hope he enjoyed his time in Saskatchewan, so he really can't complain about loyalty, and he wasn't really effective, so the real news should be what took them so long. His contract was an example of how poor Barker was as a GM...what was he thinking signing an over the hill vet to such a deal, this was one of many.

**1971GreyCup** · 04-01-2017, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Gill The Thrill

I heard they did call him and they got no response...would a voicemail message have been better?

Hope he enjoyed his time in Saskatchewan, so he really can't complain about loyalty, and he wasn't really effective, so the real news should be what took them so long. His contract was an example of how poor Barker was as a GM...what was he thinking signing an over the hill vet to such a deal, this was one of many.

Before you totally throw another local player under the bus, remember he was very active in local charity efforts and in the marketing campaigns. He was the guy for the Argos inn2017 and ditched for some nominal payment. A sad endictment of the new austere CFL.

**Gill The Thrill** · 04-01-2017, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by 1971GreyCup

Before you totally throw another local player under the bus, remember he was very active in local charity efforts and in the marketing campaigns. He was the guy for the Argos inn2017 and ditched for some nominal payment. A sad endictment of the new austere CFL.

...and he was most likely paid for appearance fees for most, if not all of the marketing events...so cry me a river.

By the way, I'm one of the biggest proponents of local players in the CFL and on the Argos throughout their history, but Foley always rubbed me the wrong way with his self-serving tweets as other posters have pointed out. To me, it always looked liked he was pumping himself more than the Argos and the CFL...that's so millennial of him, so I'm not surprised. It really hasn't benefitted the team over the years as attendance didn't really get better, if not worse, so that tells you I may not be alone in my opinion of him.

Decent player yes, but his off-season career was always a lesson on how not to negotiate. Did he ever leave a team on good terms????

**1971GreyCup** · 04-01-2017, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Gill The Thrill

...and he was most likely paid for appearance fees for most, if not all of the marketing events...so cry me a river.

By the way, I'm one of the biggest proponents of local players in the CFL and on the Argos throughout their history, but Foley always rubbed me the wrong way with his self-serving tweets as other posters have pointed out. To me, it always looked liked he was pumping himself more than the Argos and the CFL...that's so millennial of him, so I'm not surprised. It really hasn't benefitted the team over the years as attendance didn't really get better, if not worse, so that tells you I may not be alone in my opinion of him.

Decent player yes, but his off-season career was always a lesson on how not to negotiate. Did he ever leave a team on good terms????

Real fat cat fees for locals Gil the Thrill? The Argos shared those fees with me when we offered to run Huddle Up locally. By the way, they don't cover much more than auto expenses. I have a lot more respect for the players and what they give back locally after than experience. Foley, Durie, Owens, Yurichuk, Black & Holmes
Gave selflessly to local causes, brand awareness. Too bad much of the cap is used up on QBs, INT and so the money has to be saved on local's bonuses. Any other industry would be ashamed to carry that out. Especially in public.

**Jon Gonzo** · 03-31-2017, 11:43 AM

and ironically, the man/team mate/friend he was so stoked about seeing return (B.Whit) just likely got his money

**Shatto** · 03-31-2017, 12:21 PM

Sorry to see him leave, as he was one of the few players who was visible both during the season and also in the off season. In all likelihood he balked at contract restructuring ( taking pay cut). It is understandable as others have indicated, that at his age, with high contract and diminishing productivity, he was in a vulnerable position. It is difficult to find fault with the decision itself but if the reports of how he was notified are true, it leaves a bad taste.
It is disturbing how the Assistant GM seems to be treating long standing loyal players. Surely Foley deserved better than a text message, telling him he was gone. Also Drurie appears to be set adrift with little communication from management. These are local players who have contributed greatly to the team during their careers. They deserve better treatment than they appear to be getting. Maybe there is more to the story, if so then the fans deserve to know.

**Antwon** · 03-31-2017, 12:44 PM

As for the business side of things, I get it. Management trying to get veterans to take pay cuts, to the players saying no.
But considering Foley's career and how much he put into the Argos, he deserved more than a text!!!!
The optics look bad as they gave the forever injured Ray the starting job before seeing him in camp. Then sign an aging RB.(guessing Whitaker signed for cheap)

To Ricky, always classy and played every down with heart!
And thanks for the pic at the double blue bash Grey Cup week!

**Wobbler** · 03-31-2017, 01:50 PM

This limits our options for starting NATs. I wonder if Foley thought so too, and refused to restructure because he thought he had the team over a barrel.

**RoRoYoBoat** · 03-31-2017, 03:47 PM

The leak to 3downnation probably had more to do with it than anything. He was cut within an hour of the story being published. Went from a restructuring discussion to a text message.