Argonotes are no more

[jerrym]

He said it was his decision to ultimately not come back - that doesn't mean that there weren't differences of vision for how game day would look with regards to the band. I'm going to miss the band and the atmosphere they brought. Sometimes they were the biggest bright spot in the game.

Welcome on board the sometimes puzzling ship Argos. It's too bad your first post had to involve such a sad event.

[Scooter McCray]

It's a band. There is more than one person. I'm sure if Steve wished to step away, someone else may have wanted to keep the tradition going. I'm pretty sure the entire band didn't want to retire. There is more going on here than meets the eye. If the organization wants to take game day in a more modern direction that's fine. It would be nice if they would articulate what that is and not have the Argonotes run cover for them.

[Mightygoose]

It may be a band but it's still a volunteer group that requires allot of time and energy on the organizers part. Even if the entire band doesn't want to retire it's very possible that there isn't anyone with the capacity to keep it going with the same standard as it is now.

It's sad to see a long time function end but sometimes thing ends organically and it has very little or nothing to do with the larger organization. I've seen this happen albeit on a smaller scale before.

[Neely2005]

He said it was his decision to ultimately not come back - that doesn't mean that there weren't differences of vision for how game day would look with regards to the band. I'm going to miss the band and the atmosphere they brought. Sometimes they were the biggest bright spot in the game.

It doesn't mean that there were either though.

Thanks everybody. I need to put out a statement or something but for now, let me just say, this was my decision (after a lot of thought), not the team's. The team was willing to have us back and I'm very grateful for their support (and yours) over the years.

[1971GreyCup]

It's a band. There is more than one person. I'm sure if Steve wished to step away, someone else may have wanted to keep the tradition going. I'm pretty sure the entire band didn't want to retire. There is more going on here than meets the eye. If the organization wants to take game day in a more modern direction that's fine. It would be nice if they would articulate what that is and not have the Argonotes run cover for them.

I too suspect that a more modern approach was encouraged. I hope not, because until the Argos start attracting the Millenials, GenX & Gen Z the least they can do is entertain the current demographic. Too many changes for my liking.

[Argofan_1000]

band could of been selective and only do opening game, maybe one
of the holiday games or playoffs.

In fact I think you should of did this.

Can another group keep the name

[Neely2005]

The Argonotes also put a message up on their Facebook Page.

[argofan81]

The Argonotes also put a message up on their Facebook Page.

A comment on the Facebook post noted that while the Argos were willing to have them back it was with terms and conditions. Those terms and conditions did not seem to jive with the vision that the band had in terms of the role the band would play on game day. Not sure if the individual who made the comment was a member of the band or not, so take this with a grain of salt in terms of validity.

[ArgoGabe22]

A comment on the Facebook post noted that while the Argos were willing to have them back it was with terms and conditions. Those terms and conditions did not seem to jive with the vision that the band had in terms of the role the band would play on game day. Not sure if the individual who made the comment was a member of the band or not, so take this with a grain of salt in terms of validity.

It's 100% valid. That individual would know more than anyone.

[ArgoGabe22]

https://theathletic.com/72932/2017/0...ly-retirement/

[Wobbler]

This outcome might be reasonable if the team had a big entertainment plan that would be incompatible with the Argonotes. But... is there any evidence of that so far?

[Argo57]

This outcome might be reasonable if the team had a big entertainment plan that would be incompatible with the Argonotes. But... is there any evidence of that so far?

None so far Wobbler, this organization seems oblivious to the concept of good public relations.
A loyal and entertaining bunch of characters (Argonotes) cast aside with no explanation or show of gratitude.... brutal at times.

[paulwoods13]

This is a mistake by the org, plain and simple. A grassroots support operation that everyone loved. No good reason to ditch them has been given.

[Will]

Mind-boggling.

[Neely2005]

I was hoping that this wasn't the case / cause. This is yet another mistake by our Argonauts.

[Mightygoose]

On one hand I agree it's sad to see a long time part of the team be no more.

On the other hand, it does show that the organization has a vision on what the game day entertainment and experience to look like. Though it would be nice to see them incorporated into game days, it's easier to have performance standards to measure up to when you hire a band as opposed to an volunteer organization.

Weather this is a good or bad move remains to be seen. I'd rather see them go with new ideas and revert back (or a hybrid of it) if they need to as opposed to doing things the same way because it's always been done a certain way.

[1971GreyCup]

I can say it's a mistake to stopping things that work, in the absence of new successes.

A huge reason for the deterioration of Argos interest is that as each regime comes in, they abandon the initiatives of the previous group. This is another example of a fan favourite experience being jettisoned. Until new intiatives are established, its foolish and dangerous to alienate the current season ticket holders.

Before the Argos worry about offending GenX and GenZ with old fashion music, they had better attract them!

I am starting to believe that the current group has been given plenty of opportunity and time to show improvement. The clock is now ticking.

[Argo57]

On one hand I agree it's sad to see a long time part of the team be no more.

On the other hand, it does show that the organization has a vision on what the game day entertainment and experience to look like. Though it would be nice to see them incorporated into game days, it's easier to have performance standards to measure up to when you hire a band as opposed to an volunteer organization.

Weather this is a good or bad move remains to be seen. I'd rather see them go with new ideas and revert back (or a hybrid of it) if they need to as opposed to doing things the same way because it's always been done a certain way.

Wonder when the organization will share their new vision.
Contrary to your statement I personally had no issues with the Argonotes musical standards and always thought it was great that a group of Argonaut fans volunteered their time to enhance the game day experience.

[Mightygoose]

Wonder when the organization will share their new vision.
Contrary to your statement I personally had no issues with the Argonotes musical standards.

I doubt we'll get an answer in greater detail until the next town hall meeting unless someone from the organization or Argonotes can chime in here.

I agree the Argonotes did a good job at the same I think the 416Beats do a solid job too and I haven't noticed anything less from them.

416Beats are used by a number of functions throughout the city including the Raptors which may explain why the organization looked in that direction.

[Shatto]

It sounds from the article, they were not officially kicked out but rather made to feel unwelcome. Great to try new things to attract new fans but not at the expense of upsetting present fans. Looks like another bad read of the situation by Copeland.