Ricky Ray is now the leading passer in Toronto Argonauts history

**Will** · 07-30-2017, 11:59 AM

The #Argos have a new franchise leader in passing yards. Ray continues his assault on the record 📚's.

🗞 » https://t.co/66eQmrZVfQ pic.twitter.com/1NVmUXjCqB
— Toronto Argonauts (@TorontoArgos) July 30, 2017

Has he been injury prone throughout his Toronto career? Yep.
Has the team performed up to potential throughout his Toronto career? Nope.
Is that his fault? Nope.
Has he given it his all? Yep.

Congrats to Ricky and it's hard to believe it has been 5 years since the trade.

**Argo57** · 07-30-2017, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Argofans.com

The #Argos have a new franchise leader in passing yards. Ray continues his assault on the record 📚's.

🗞 » https://t.co/66eQmrZVfQ pic.twitter.com/1NVmUXjCqB
— Toronto Argonauts (@TorontoArgos) July 30, 2017

Has he been injury prone throughout his Toronto career? Yep.
Has the team performed up to potential throughout his Toronto career? Nope.
Is that his fault? Nope.
Has he given it his all? Yep.

Congrats to Ricky and it's hard to believe it has been 5 years since the trade.

Classy Argonaut legend who just surpassed another class act in Condredge Holloway.
Congrats to Ricky Ray!!!

**R.J** · 07-30-2017, 12:20 PM

Trestman and Popp need to continue looking to find ways to protect Ray, he has taken some serious bone crunching hits this season, and I'd rather the Argos protect Fajardo and Prukop, instead of throwing them into the fire at this point.

**ArgoGabe22** · 07-30-2017, 12:38 PM

Ray should've been let go after the 2012 season....

**gilthethrill** · 07-30-2017, 01:01 PM

I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate Ricky Ray on this accomplishment.

**Neely2005** · 07-30-2017, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22

Ray should've been let go after the 2012 season....

Lol, yup he's been washed up for going on 5 years now.
;-)

**R.J** · 07-30-2017, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22

Ray should've been let go after the 2012 season....

I would have let him go after 2013, but he is still here, and I think Fajardo and Prukop have potential.

**doubleblue** · 07-30-2017, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by R.J

Trestman and Popp need to continue looking to find ways to protect Ray, he has taken some serious bone crunching hits this season, and I'd rather the Argos protect Fajardo and Prukop, instead of throwing them into the fire at this point.

Ricky did take quite a few hits Saturday after having fairly good protection against Ottawa. Somehow Trestman has to get some kind of a running game going to slow down the pass rush going forward. Otherwise we are playing with fire here. Eventually Ricky is going to be injured.

**OV Argo** · 07-30-2017, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by gilthethrill

I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate Ricky Ray on this accomplishment.

Me too - Ricky is top 10 all-time as a CFL QB, IMO.

But goes to show the Argos have never had a QB they developed and who stayed with the team a long time. Theissman, Holloway or Flutie were great QBs who played for the Argos - too bad they didn't last 10 seasons or so.

**ArgoRavi** · 07-31-2017, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by OV Argo

Me too - Ricky is top 10 all-time as a CFL QB, IMO.

But goes to show the Argos have never had a QB they developed and who stayed with the team a long time. Theissman, Holloway or Flutie were great QBs who played for the Argos - too bad they didn't last 10 seasons or so.

Holloway lasted six seasons with the Argos and Ricky Ray is now in his sixth. Damon Allen lasted five. The only Argos QB that I can think of who lasted longer than any of the aforementioned was Michael Bishop who was into his seventh season when he was sent packing.

**doubleblue** · 07-31-2017, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by ArgoRavi

Holloway lasted six seasons with the Argos and Ricky Ray is now in his sixth. Damon Allen lasted five. The only Argos QB that I can think of who lasted longer than any of the aforementioned was Michael Bishop who was into his seventh season when he was sent packing.

I had forgotten how long Michael Bishop was here. They kept waiting for his tremendous physical potential to come out. I still didn't agree with the trade to bring in Joseph at that time. Just seemed to be bad timing. But How could we ever forget Joseph and Bishop acting like two little spoiled children pouting when the other one was playing. lol
Ended up dividing that team and cost Stubler his job.
I keep my fingers crossed every time Ricky gets hit now, but I believe history has and will show that the two QB's (Collaros and Harris) will never reach Ricky Ray's records or accomplishments. Barker made the correct decision keeping Ricky IMO. There will come a time in a few years a new QB will have to take over but until that happens he's The Guy.

**Antwon** · 07-31-2017, 01:09 PM

Congrats to Ricky! Passed my all time favourite Argo.

As for Barker, you can praise him for keeping Ray. But JB and SM did thier best to run the team into the ground the last 3 years.
Remember Barker traded for Willy!! Constant revolving door of players. Letting Owens, one of Ray's favourite targets leave.
SM cuts 3 starting recievers at the same time!!!!

We are seeing that JB and SM were justifiably removed. And we are benefitting from a higher calibre GM, coach, and in general football staff.

**doubleblue** · 07-31-2017, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Antwon

Congrats to Ricky! Passed my all time favourite Argo.

As for Barker, you can praise him for keeping Ray. But JB and SM did thier best to run the team into the ground the last 3 years.
Remember Barker traded for Willy!! Constant revolving door of players. Letting Owens, one of Ray's favourite targets leave.
SM cuts 3 starting recievers at the same time!!!!

We are seeing that JB and SM were justifiably removed. And we are benefitting from a higher calibre GM, coach, and in general football staff.

All I was saying is that keeping Ricky Ray over Collaros and Harris was justified as long as he can compete at a high level. Which he is.
I don't think Barker and Milanovich set out to "run the team into the ground". Just made some bad decisions and every Coach has a shelf life. However, the Willy trade has to go down as one of the worst trades in Argo history, if not the worst. Now would Jim Barker maybe make that trade to kind of screw things up if he knew he was being fired? I don't know, but I don't think he is that type of person. It just looked that way. lol

**herrington2828** · 07-31-2017, 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=Antwon;113943]Congrats to Ricky! Passed my all time favourite Argo.

SM cuts 3 starting recievers at the same time!!!!
[QUOTE]

how is this still an argument against JB and SM??

4 players get drunk after a loss on a "non-drinking train" verbally assault the coaches in their train .... nobody is above attitude like this and they all deserve to be cut. if players did that this year, they should be cut too.

**AngeloV** · 07-31-2017, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by herrington2828

how is this still an argument against JB and SM??

4 players get drunk after a loss on a "non-drinking train" verbally assault the coaches in their train .... nobody is above attitude like this and they all deserve to be cut. if players did that this year, they should be cut too.

Total assclowns.

**argolio** · 07-31-2017, 05:38 PM

Impressive that Tobin Rote still ranks high in most career passing categories considering he was only an Argo for three seasons and played in a much different era.

**doubleblue** · 07-31-2017, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by argolio

Impressive that Tobin Rote still ranks high in most career passing categories considering he was only an Argo for three seasons and played in a much different era.

Also, just 14 game schedules back then.

**OV Argo** · 07-31-2017, 07:04 PM

[QUOTE=herrington2828;113949][QUOTE=Antwon;113943]Congrats to Ricky! Passed my all time favourite Argo.

SM cuts 3 starting recievers at the same time!!!!

how is this still an argument against JB and SM??

4 players get drunk after a loss on a "non-drinking train" verbally assault the coaches in their train .... nobody is above attitude like this and they all deserve to be cut. if players did that this year, they should be cut too.

Source please ? - you're saying all 4 of Hazelton, Gurley, Elliott and the other receiver (name escapes me now) who got cut, were all drunk on an Argo train ride home and were beaking the coaches ?

If i was an Argo player, I probably would have got hammered after that moron trade for Willy and told Scotty & Jimbo to F-off out of town.

**Neely2005** · 07-31-2017, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Antwon

Congrats to Ricky! Passed my all time favourite Argo.

As for Barker, you can praise him for keeping Ray. But JB and SM did thier best to run the team into the ground the last 3 years.
Remember Barker traded for Willy!! Constant revolving door of players. Letting Owens, one of Ray's favourite targets leave.
SM cuts 3 starting recievers at the same time!!!!

We are seeing that JB and SM were justifiably removed. And we are benefitting from a higher calibre GM, coach, and in general football staff.

So far letting Owens go seems to be the right decision.