GAME THREAD / Week 7 / Stamps @ Argos

[mchesher03]

Looks like it’s time for Big Will Campbell to shine with Brandon Washington on the 1 game injury list too.

As someone who also follows Michigan football, big will has had a bit of a rough go of things, a 5 star hs recruit at D-Tackle and got flipped between OL and DL a bit in college and I think stuck with the Jets briefly as a OL before ending up here.

Hopefully he can get the job done tomorrow.

[Stevoman]

Did the Sears mistake cost him a position this week? Also, nice to see Whitaker back. I think Wilder has tremendous potential but Whitaker is much more consistent.

[AngeloV]

Did the Sears mistake cost him a position this week? Also, nice to see Whitaker back. I think Wilder has tremendous potential but Whitaker is much more consistent.

Actually, IMO, Wilder has out performed Whitaker this season.

[ArgoGabe22]

Actually, IMO, Wilder has out performed Whitaker this season.

Not sure what their blocking was like for either but from just running, I think it's difficult to say one is better than the other given the lack of room both are given to run with the line. Wilder has more potential to cause damage by running through defenders but I still don't see that as much as i would like to.

[AngeloV]

Not sure what their blocking was like for either but from just running, I think it's difficult to say one is better than the other given the lack of room both are given to run with the line. Wilder has more potential to cause damage by running through defenders but I still don't see that as much as i would like to.

Wilder has yet to be stopped on short yardage this season as a runner. He converts those 2nd and 2's that we have had so much trouble with. I really wish they would have given him the ball when they had first and goal on the 5 last week.

[Wobbler]

I was going to express concern about whether 170 lb Ford was big enough to deal with slotbacks, but then I realized that he's a beast compared to (160 lb) Josh Mitchell, who was doing a pretty good job for us until he got hurt.

So, uh, never mind.

[Neely2005]

Hard to disagree but I'm not sure what they can do?

http://calgaryherald.com/sports/foot...t-to-bad-scene

[Shatto]

It is an interesting question. Is it the transition of grass to turf or is it the quality of the turf itself? Noticed Cross slipped at the end of the end zone so it suggests the quality of the turf may be the issue.

Also does anyone have any inside information of what is happening with the Argo's practice field? Right now they are still at York Un but with the university team scheduled to begin soon, will that have to change?

[1971GreyCup]

I think the Argos might move to Don Bosco from York U.

[ArgoZ]

It is an interesting question. Is it the transition of grass to turf or is it the quality of the turf itself? Noticed Cross slipped at the end of the end zone so it suggests the quality of the turf may be the issue.

Not enough information being presented in that article, only complaining. I assume the only issue is players slipping. So why are they doing so? Whenever I wear cleats, they have been fine on turf, so are they wearing the wrong shoes or is it sub par turf? Turf shoes are not the greatest on wet grass, but I havent heard of the opposite.

[Will]

I think the Argos might move to Don Bosco from York U.

Right away? I thought any sort of facility at that location was more of an intermediate or long-term project.

[Neely2005]

Not enough information being presented in that article, only complaining. I assume the only issue is players slipping. So why are they doing so? Whenever I wear cleats, they have been fine on turf, so are they wearing the wrong shoes or is it sub par turf? Turf shoes are not the greatest on wet grass, but I havent heard of the opposite.

I think it's the transition from grass on the field to turf in the endzone that causes the problem. Especially since they're usually hitting that transition with a lot of speed.

[Bleeds Double Blue]

I just saw that the club has released Matt Black and Devon Wylie. Not sure what to think of this since I am not close enough to the situation to form an informed opinion. Any comments or should this have its own thread?

[Wobbler]

It was discussed in the transactions thread.

[Joe Barnes]

I think it's the transition from grass on the field to turf in the endzone that causes the problem. Especially since they're usually hitting that transition with a lot of speed.

It looks to me like a turf quality issue. You look at other stadiums with modern Field Turf surfaces and they really resemble grass. They look (at least) like a good surface to run on and not too hard on the body. When the players run and get tackled they kick up those black beads. This doesn't happen at BMO - the endzones look like the indoor/outdoor on my parents front steps back in the '80's! Argos only get the stadium on game days, so not sure what they can do...

[AngeloV]

Not enough information being presented in that article, only complaining. I assume the only issue is players slipping. So why are they doing so? Whenever I wear cleats, they have been fine on turf, so are they wearing the wrong shoes or is it sub par turf? Turf shoes are not the greatest on wet grass, but I havent heard of the opposite.

They definitely wear different length of cleats on grass than they do on field turf. Likely the longer cleats worn on grass is what can create the problem when they go into the endzone.

[gilthethrill]

They definitely wear different length of cleats on grass than they do on field turf. Likely the longer cleats worn on grass is what can create the problem when they go into the endzone.

I suggest Calgary stay out of the endzone tonight just to be safe.

[Wobbler]

But we should probably send a few guys in there to test it, right? That seems wise.

[jerrym]

If the Argos are to have a chance, they need to contain Messam. If they cannot do that, the combination of Calgary running and passing will run up the score. It could happen even if they hold Messam in check, but without that they are out of luck.

[ArgoZ]

Argos score first! Take that deadly turf endzone!