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    Quote Originally Posted by Al&Kat View Post
    An immobile QB does not work in the CFL.
    Name another starting QB in the league as immobile as RR.

    Four consecutive years of getting hurt (Ray) should be enough to get
    that point through even the thickest CFL heads.

    Danny McManus was a slow, lead-foot QB who won a GC; so did Mike Kerrigan for the Ticats; Ricky Ray has 10x the mobility of either of those guys - and Ray is hardly a good running/scrambling QB but IMO his mobility, and, decision making to take off with the ball to gain some valuable yards once in awhile, are quite under-rated. The injury was mostly on him - he held on to the ball way to long on that play, and this can happen to even the best of QBs. And when you have a weak O-line and little to no run game, so it's obvious you are going to be passing most of the time = your QB could get hit - LOTS.

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    I'd say that at least one of the last five Cup winning QBs was as immobile as RR.

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    Ray has made plenty of plays this year after sliding left or right to buy some time. I find the argument that you can't win because he's not mobile enough to be stupid. He's also been in far better physical shape as an Argo than he ever was as an Eskimo.

    If you can't rush the passer and protect the passer in today's gamer, you generally don't win. Problem is that our o-line has been an issue ever since he got here, even in 2012. Until that gets fixed, Ray or whoever else plays QB will be in more danger of getting injured than QBs on the elite teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    I believe Trestman could play both Fajardo and Mathews depending on the situation. Cody looked like a deer in the headlights when he first came in but did settle down somewhat. Calgary defense did back off a bit late in the game and didn't bring as much pressure but it was a good chance for Cody to get some time at game speed.
    But I can see Trestman starting him and play it by ear from there. Mathews did look good in the second pre-season game in Montreal.
    Cody lead team to 2 Field goals and a TD, COMPLETED 6 OF 11 passes a long bomb to Green, the TD he took in himself, I think he was great cold off the bench without reps. Not to mention he has been almost perfect in short yardage, last year threw at least 1 TD, the one I recall was a surprise to the other team as they thought he would run.

    I think Cody will be the future if we dont blow it by playing others. The idea of Matthews to me is a terrible idea, just my opinion

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    Thanks Ravi. Not many people agree with anything I say on here... or anywhere else for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al&Kat View Post
    An immobile QB does not work in the CFL.
    Name another starting QB in the league as immobile as RR.

    Four consecutive years of getting hurt (Ray) should be enough to get
    that point through even the thickest CFL heads.
    I agree that the prototypical and preferred CFL QB is very mobile. However, Ray was working quite well (leading all CFL QBs, IIRC). Alas, his protectors were not working to anything like the same standard. Exit Ray.

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    Now may be the time to call the Esks and try to pry James Franklin with a multi player deal.
    Especially since he will be a FA at year end and they will get nothing for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argotom View Post
    Now may be the time to call the Esks and try to pry James Franklin with a multi player deal.
    Especially since he will be a FA at year end and they will get nothing for him.
    He might not want to come to Toronto knowing that Cody Fajardo is the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobbler View Post
    I'd say that at least one of the last five Cup winning QBs was as immobile as RR.
    Whom are you speaking of ?

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    He might not want to come to Toronto knowing that Cody Fajardo is the future
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Whom are you speaking of ?
    Umm, maybe Ricky Ray?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Umm, maybe Ricky Ray?
    I figured, but on the off chance Wobbler potentially meant Mitchell (who is nowhere near as immobile as Ray), it was worth asking. No need for the snarky remark.

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    No, Ray is clearly the least productive runner of the bunch. My point was that you don't need to be particularly mobile to succeed in pro football.

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    Ricky Ray is the QB under centre at walkthrough today.

    The 4-6 weeks was never actually confirmed by the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobbler View Post
    No, Ray is clearly the least productive runner of the bunch. My point was that you don't need to be particularly mobile to succeed in pro football.
    You don't but you would need a better O-Line than Toronto currently has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    Ricky Ray is the QB under centre at walkthrough today.

    The 4-6 weeks was never actually confirmed by the team.
    Where was the practise today? There was nothing on their website...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Barnes View Post
    Where was the practise today? There was nothing on their website...
    At Don Bosco

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    I figured, but on the off chance Wobbler potentially meant Mitchell (who is nowhere near as immobile as Ray), it was worth asking. No need for the snarky remark.
    If you took it as snarky, I apologize. I would have thought the answer was rather obvious. I've never heard Mitchell described as immobile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    You don't but you would need a better O-Line than Toronto currently has.
    That is certainly true. It is the area of the team in most urgent need of upgrade (and the hardest one to upgrade, unfortunately).
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    [QUOTE=ArgoGabe22;114303]At Don Bosco[/QUOTE

    I thought AV stated that the field there was not really useable? Good news about Ray though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Whom are you speaking of ?


    argoholic lives again!
    Dont know the guy am just a believer in Fajardo, call it a gut feeling. Apparently I am not alone, my take is that overwhelming majority want Fajardo to start in Rays place. This is a bit unusual because I have found myself on minority side more often than not in situations like this.

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