Ricky Ray Injury - Out 4-6 Weeks

[Neely2005]

@TSNDaveNaylor: Hearing from reliable source that Argos QB Ricky Ray has a separated AC joint (shoulder), expected to miss 4-6 weeks. #argos #CFLonTSN

https://twitter.com/TSNDaveNaylor/st...54114801565697

EDIT: Updated title to show Day To Day.

[Shirley]

Now we have to wait until reports from practice who got most reps. I sure hope they dont screw over Fajardo, I thought we were done with that kind of stuff with previous management. I believe in the new management, if they screwed over Fajardo, not giving him a decent chance to start, I will be very disappointed

[Stevoman]

Dang it! As bad as the O-line was last night, on this particular play my first reaction was that Ray was waiting way too long and I know that he was looking deep and waiting for the play to develop but there was a lot of steamboats before he attempted the pass.
Now we shall see what we've got for the future. I foresee a mixture of Fajardo and Matthews but I don't know, I guess we could always give up another first rounder and maybe Marcus Ball for Drew Willy again!

[AngeloV]

Now we have to wait until reports from practice who got most reps. I sure hope they dont screw over Fajardo, I thought we were done with that kind of stuff with previous management. I believe in the new management, if they screwed over Fajardo, not giving him a decent chance to start, I will be very disappointed

What are you talking about? The fact that Fajardo was next one up should tell you all you need to know about who is #2. Why are you trying to set the table for negativity?

[Shirley]

Dang it! As bad as the O-line was last night, on this particular play my first reaction was that Ray was waiting way too long and I know that he was looking deep and waiting for the play to develop but there was a lot of steamboats before he attempted the pass.
Now we shall see what we've got for the future. I foresee a mixture of Fajardo and Matthews but I don't know, I guess we could always give up another first rounder and maybe Marcus Ball for Drew Willy again!

I am hoping they commit to Fajardo, in my mind would be unfair to handle it any other way at this point

As for Oline and QB sacks... I am a fan of RR, he looked better this season than I recall ever, ok maybe early days in Edmonton. But when I followed Flutie to NFL I remember well Bills OLINE Coach Carl Mauk (sp) saying.... The Oline is just fine when Flutie is at QB, Finally breaking, he had enough crap that his oline was the problem, Mauk said the problem is Rob Johnson, he was right, RJ went on to be sack king of the NFL

[Bleeds Double Blue]

I agree with you Stevoman. I thought he had lots of time to look down field then get rid of it before he got walloped. I'm not putting this one on the O-line. A ton of other hits yes but not this one.

[Shirley]

What are you talking about? The fact that Fajardo was next one up should tell you all you need to know about who is #2. Why are you trying to set the table for negativity?

You think I made it up out of thin air? Only that as 1050 signed off last night with trestman on with Mike Hogan, he would not commit that Fajardo would be the starter, stated they would talk it over with all the coaches have input from everybody and collectively make the decision. I dont know why he could not have just stated Cody is our guy, but he could not?

[jerrym]

Ray is a Hall of Fame QB, but with his record of long-term injury season after season I think it's time to spend the team's big money on another starting QB next season.

[Wobbler]

Could have been worse.

I wonder whether Cody will do his own sneaks or if Prukop will see some action.

[moeajram]

Last night he looked like he was off, he had so much time to get rid of the ball and his decision making was very slow and it resulted in 2 turn over by one of the smartest QB in the CFL this year. i said to my buddy, they should have taken him out of half as he looked like he was a not his normal self.

[Neely2005]

This was posted in the GDT Thread but it seems relevant here too:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...a-record-books

[Argo57]

You think I made it up out of thin air? Only that as 1050 signed off last night with trestman on with Mike Hogan, he would not commit that Fajardo would be the starter, stated they would talk it over with all the coaches have input from everybody and collectively make the decision. I dont know why he could not have just stated Cody is our guy, but he could not?

Shirley you can't be serious?
Perhaps Trestman wants to make a well thought out decision with input from the coaching staff, who would have a problem with that?

[Shirley]

Shirley you can't be serious?
Perhaps Trestman wants to make a well thought out decision with input from the coaching staff, who would have a problem with that?

It left the impression he was not certain it would be Cody, thats how I took it. Yes Airplane is one of my favorite movies.

From CFL.CA an assumption on their part, but sounds like its ok then

If Ray is unavailable, Fajardo is expected to make his first career professional start. Fajardo completed six of 11 passing attempts for 75 yards and also flashed his ability as a rusher, taking off eight times for 55 yards and a touchdown.
“He does give us some mobility and some out of the pocket ability to extend plays with his feet and with his speed. I think you saw that [on Thursday night]. He just ran off the game play and made some plays, extended some plays when he had the opportunity to do that.”

[doubleblue]

I believe Trestman could play both Fajardo and Mathews depending on the situation. Cody looked like a deer in the headlights when he first came in but did settle down somewhat. Calgary defense did back off a bit late in the game and didn't bring as much pressure but it was a good chance for Cody to get some time at game speed.
But I can see Trestman starting him and play it by ear from there. Mathews did look good in the second pre-season game in Montreal.

[ArgoRavi]

I agree with you Stevoman. I thought he had lots of time to look down field then get rid of it before he got walloped. I'm not putting this one on the O-line. A ton of other hits yes but not this one.

I agree with you both. It was surprising that he didn't unload the ball earlier as he had a lot of time on that play.

[Bleeds Double Blue]

You think I made it up out of thin air? Only that as 1050 signed off last night with trestman on with Mike Hogan, he would not commit that Fajardo would be the starter, stated they would talk it over with all the coaches have input from everybody and collectively make the decision. I dont know why he could not have just stated Cody is our guy, but he could not?

Maybe I got it ass-backwards but the impression that I got from that interview was that all options were on the table including Ricky Ray. At that point they weren't aware of how bad the injury was and how long he would be out. Ricky Ray himself had told Matthew Scianitti that he was fine.

[Bleeds Double Blue]

I agree with you both. It was surprising that he didn't unload the ball earlier as he had a lot of time on that play.

Thanks Ravi. Not many people agree with anything I say on here... or anywhere else for that matter.

[Neely2005]

Thanks Ravi. Not many people agree with anything I say on here... or anywhere else for that matter.

I agree with that.

[argotom]

Last night he looked like he was off, he had so much time to get rid of the ball and his decision making was very slow and it resulted in 2 turn over by one of the smartest QB in the CFL this year. i said to my buddy, they should have taken him out of half as he looked like he was a not his normal self.

Agree with you.
Ray was slow in the pocket, almost like he could not make his reads with the progressions.
On top of which he bounced several passes.
Deja vu from last year.
His worst game of the year.
Going into the game, I actually though we could win if his performance was like early in the year.
Wasn't even close.

[Al&Kat]

An immobile QB does not work in the CFL.
Name another starting QB in the league as immobile as RR.

Four consecutive years of getting hurt (Ray) should be enough to get
that point through even the thickest CFL heads.