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    I'd bring ZC back in a heartbeat. Something tells me Ray will call it a great career at season's end. I don't believe Fajardo will ever be a starter but a serviceable back up, leaving Prukop as the development guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I'd bring ZC back in a heartbeat. Something tells me Ray will call it a great career at season's end. I don't believe Fajardo will ever be a starter but a serviceable back up, leaving Prukop as the development guy.
    A change of scenery and working with a coach like Trestman would work wonders for Collaros.
    I also suspect Ray may pack it in after this season, wear and tear on the body starts to add up besides he has nothing to prove at this point in his Hall of Fame career!
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    Ray wants to become a coach. I think he would like being a back up and slowly hand the reins over to Zac as Zac regains his confidence. I don't equate Zac to Drew Willy. We have seen here and in Hamilton what he is capable of. Bring him back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I'd bring ZC back in a heartbeat. Something tells me Ray will call it a great career at season's end. I don't believe Fajardo will ever be a starter but a serviceable back up, leaving Prukop as the development guy.
    I'd be good with this scenario.

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    Collaros will not renegotiate and be wearing new uniform next season, guaranteed: report

    http://3downnation.com/2017/09/28/co...season-report/

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    ^ Zero chance that the Ticats want to pay Zach reportedly $540k, so I'd expect Collaros to be released, especially if Manziel does end up signing in the Hammer. As mos5 around here kniw, I'd love to see Zach back in double blue, Collaros, Ray, Prukop, and Fajardo sounds like a good QB stable to me. Give Matthews the boot, not sure about Bethel Thompson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    ^ Zero chance that the Ticats want to pay Zach reportedly $540k, so I'd expect Collaros to be released, especially if Manziel does end up signing in the Hammer. As mos5 around here kniw, I'd love to see Zach back in double blue, Collaros, Ray, Prukop, and Fajardo sounds like a good QB stable to me. Give Matthews the boot, not sure about Bethel Thompson.
    From the article:

    "I think Zach Collaros and his representatives have enough*self-respect to say thanks for the memories Hamilton, but we’ll take our business elsewhere and it’s likely going to be 55 kilometres to the east on the QEW.”

    That should add some extra animosity from Hamilton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely2005 View Post
    Collaros will not renegotiate and be wearing new uniform next season, guaranteed: report

    http://3downnation.com/2017/09/28/co...season-report/
    Somewhat misleading. Accept half your current salary to be a backup or compete for a starting role? What’s the point? Especially, when you can be a starter somewhere else in the league and get paid as one. Knowing how Collaros wanted to stick it to the Argonauts with his infamous goodbye wave, it would be interesting seeing him lead the Argonauts over the Cats next year!

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    I'm okay with Collaros returning ..... But there is the Alouettes that will be looking for a QB ..... And my question is .... Is Collaros attitude ....yes I will accept guidance and work for my position or .... Is it I am confident in my ways and don't need the guidance ....
    Only because I think his confidence helps in the QB situation but also helps to create conflict as with Austin .
    Will Trestman and Brady and maybe even Ray have the respect? Or will AC have to learn to work with him .
    There's no way he will go to the Rouge et Noir ... And I think the west teams are set .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argocister View Post
    I'm okay with Collaros returning ..... But there is the Alouettes that will be looking for a QB ..... And my question is .... Is Collaros attitude ....yes I will accept guidance and work for my position or .... Is it I am confident in my ways and don't need the guidance ....
    Only because I think his confidence helps in the QB situation but also helps to create conflict as with Austin .
    Will Trestman and Brady and maybe even Ray have the respect? Or will AC have to learn to work with him .
    There's no way he will go to the Rouge et Noir ... And I think the west teams are set .
    At this point Collaros will have to be humble and work his way back to elite QB status, he is currently in no position to do otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    At this point Collaros will have to be humble and work his way back to elite QB status, he is currently in no position to do otherwise.
    Collaros has also worked with Marcus Brady in the past - in 2013 - and enjoyed much success under his tutelage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    Collaros has also worked with Marcus Brady in the past - in 2013 - and enjoyed much success under his tutelage.
    I think he would thrive with the Argos and their staff, his salary expectations would need to be somewhat tempered though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argocister View Post
    I'm okay with Collaros returning ..... But there is the Alouettes that will be looking for a QB ..... And my question is .... Is Collaros attitude ....yes I will accept guidance and work for my position or .... Is it I am confident in my ways and don't need the guidance ....
    Only because I think his confidence helps in the QB situation but also helps to create conflict as with Austin .
    Will Trestman and Brady and maybe even Ray have the respect? Or will AC have to learn to work with him .
    There's no way he will go to the Rouge et Noir ... And I think the west teams are set .
    Sask is not set at QB (although I certainly wish that Bridge was an Argonaut).

    Also, Wally B will want to bring in competition for a starting QB battle.

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    With the playoffs all but done for Hamilton, the right thing to do is give Collaros a couple of starts in the new system to see how he plays.
    If he plays well, then maybe he's in the plans for next year, or raises the trade value.
    But it appears the Cats want Manzeil, so Collaros is out regardless.

    For the Argos does Ray for sure want to retire? If not what does he want to come back for. More money, starter?
    I say wait it out and don't make any trades. Make the Cats release him, and pick Collaros up for a more cap friendly contract.
    One thing I don't want is Manzeil playing for us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antwon View Post
    One thing I don't want is Manzeil playing for us!
    I really don't believe Trestman would have any interest in a guy like Manziel. Trestman is all about high character people.
    It's us vs the rest of the country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antwon View Post
    With the playoffs all but done for Hamilton, the right thing to do is give Collaros a couple of starts in the new system to see how he plays.
    If he plays well, then maybe he's in the plans for next year, or raises the trade value.
    But it appears the Cats want Manzeil, so Collaros is out regardless.

    For the Argos does Ray for sure want to retire? If not what does he want to come back for. More money, starter?
    I say wait it out and don't make any trades. Make the Cats release him, and pick Collaros up for a more cap friendly contract.
    One thing I don't want is Manzeil playing for us!
    I'd bring Ray back on another incentive based contract like he has now. Then Collaros or Fajardo can be on similar contacts. Whoever plays the most gets paid the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo View Post
    Sask is not set at QB (although I certainly wish that Bridge was an Argonaut).

    Also, Wally B will want to bring in competition for a starting QB battle.
    I think Franklin is option #1 in Saskatchewan.

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    We have to get through this season and hopefully the Grey Cup before worrying about next year. I really have not become a fan of Zach Collaros and his actions on field. I do believe he is done in Hamilton no matter what. His big salary, poor performance and then topped off with his insubordination means he will get traded or cut if it comes to that. To me his logical landing has to be Montreal or Saskatchewan. They have the biggest need for an experience QB IMO. I can see Popp taking a run at Franklin and maybe Edmonton would give the Argos a leg up early to talk to him to try and keep him out of the Western Conference and from enemy #1 Chris Jones. Edmonton has not given Franklin much playing time but any time he has got in there he looks good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I'd bring ZC back in a heartbeat. Something tells me Ray will call it a great career at season's end. I don't believe Fajardo will ever be a starter but a serviceable back up, leaving Prukop as the development guy.
    We agree.
    I do not think for one minute ZC has gone from a sure thing MOP before being injured in 2015 to now being done.
    Almost like the same thing that has happened to Ricky the past two years with a resurgence this year under the Trestman regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    We have to get through this season and hopefully the Grey Cup before worrying about next year. I really have not become a fan of Zach Collaros and his actions on field. I do believe he is done in Hamilton no matter what. His big salary, poor performance and then topped off with his insubordination means he will get traded or cut if it comes to that. To me his logical landing has to be Montreal or Saskatchewan. They have the biggest need for an experience QB IMO. I can see Popp taking a run at Franklin and maybe Edmonton would give the Argos a leg up early to talk to him to try and keep him out of the Western Conference and from enemy #1 Chris Jones. Edmonton has not given Franklin much playing time but any time he has got in there he looks good.
    Insubordination ?

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