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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo View Post
    Not a good report for football. Something has to change or we are going to lose the game we love. I know what these guys are talking about as even in High School I had my "bell rung". QB's are always fair game. I found out what the term "having your bell rung" really felt like. When your brain bounces around inside your skull it actually feels like your whole head is vibrating. Paralyzing you for a few seconds.
    I know the officials are just calling the game within the rules but it seems they are more concerned with a little hand push a way from the play on a run back or a finger over the goal line on a one yard plunge then a vicious helmet to helmet hit.
    The teams are going to have to start teaching more the Rugby style of tackling and put in game ejections and fines for tackles leading with the helmet.

    I saw an article recently that some NCAA teams are starting to get the message and are bringing out Rugby Coaches to teach tackling without leading with the head. But it has to come from the top, and in Pro Sports that starts with the owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    Not a good report for football. Something has to change or we are going to lose the game we love. I know what these guys are talking about as even in High School I had my "bell rung". QB's are always fair game. I found out what the term "having your bell rung" really felt like. When your brain bounces around inside your skull it actually feels like your whole head is vibrating. Paralyzing you for a few seconds.
    I know the officials are just calling the game within the rules but it seems they are more concerned with a little hand push a way from the play on a run back or a finger over the goal line on a one yard plunge then a vicious helmet to helmet hit.
    The teams are going to have to start teaching more the Rugby style of tackling and put in game ejections and fines for tackles leading with the helmet.

    I saw an article recently that some NCAA teams are starting to get the message and are bringing out Rugby Coaches to teach tackling without leading with the head. But it has to come from the top, and in Pro Sports that starts with the owners.
    Before the NFL concussion study funded by the National Football League, NFL insisted the other sports also be included in the study. Assholes in charge over ruled the NFL and now we are only talking football. Everyone knows you are going to see the similar results in the other sports. Some of the highest concussions are reported in girls soccer. Male soccer probably high - hockey for sure - rugby, wrestling, boxing, UFC, martial arts, baseball in young kids as they get hit in the head with the bat or ball. Gymnastics and how many other sports.

    Some ideas from others

    No helmets during practice.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.65b2d1355798

    No helmet to helmet contact during a game = ejection
    Not talking about accidental - talking about the Cox hit a few weeks ago
    NCAA banning helmet to helmet hits. NFL may follow
    https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--n...174052423.html
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    True. The more we learn about CTE, the more there is a concern that this isn't a manageable issue. Faster, stronger athletes create violent impacts, which is great for TV. Knowing that the brain impact is damaging and cumulative how much longer will we tolerate this?

    While you can count on a lot of young men willing to ignore the risk, how many parents would knowingly permit their sons to go on even one traumatic impact?

    I think big changes in future should be expected if the sport is to survive.
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    New helmet technologies could help as well.

    https://www.wired.com/2016/01/the-ze...layers-brains/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    New helmet technologies could help as well.

    https://www.wired.com/2016/01/the-ze...layers-brains/
    seems like a few changes and the sport becomes safer. If NFL adopts the new helmets then the CFL should also. Some of the donated money to youth football could be directed towards these new helmets.

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    New helmet technology and, even more importantly, rule changes with extremely strict consequences for contravention would go some way in reducing brain trauma injuries.

    That is, head impacts should be few and far between and entirely accidental when they occur.

    Yet some will certainly still occur.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurent_Duvernay-Tardif

    states that: Duvernay-Tardif has been working with the developers of Shockbox, a device that is placed inside of football helmets to measure the impacts received on the field. He says that he hopes that his work will help to prevent concussions in football.[6]

    [6] "McGill medical student chosen in NFL draft". CTV News Montreal. Retrieved June 22, 2014.

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    https://www.thestar.com/opinion/edit...editorial.html

    Horrifying study results reported.

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    First off anything printed in this FAR/ALT left rag should be taken with a grain of salt.

    That said,

    All combat sports can cause injuries, and where and when possible every opportunity should be taken to prevent said injuries.

    However, at the professional level, college level it is a LIFE CHOICE made by the adult participant.

    The world is going crazy, and anything that requires an ounce of testosterone is being chastised.

    I truly think that until every male is turned into a GELDING, Football, Boxing, Hockey, etc, will be attacked.

    Lets make the sports safer, not neuter all men and boys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argonaut11xx View Post
    First off anything printed in this FAR/ALT left rag should be taken with a grain of salt.

    That said,

    All combat sports can cause injuries, and where and when possible every opportunity should be taken to prevent said injuries.

    However, at the professional level, college level it is a LIFE CHOICE made by the adult participant.

    The world is going crazy, and anything that requires an ounce of testosterone is being chastised.

    I truly think that until every male is turned into a GELDING, Football, Boxing, Hockey, etc, will be attacked.

    Lets make the sports safer, not neuter all men and boys.

    "Those who hate you dont win...unless you hate them...and then you destroy yourself"
    While you destroy yourself Hater, please spare the rest of the posters here your tedious rants that, alas, occur with alarming regularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo View Post
    While you destroy yourself Hater, please spare the rest of the posters here your tedious rants that, alas, occur with alarming regularity.
    There was nothing wrong with the bulk of his post, the world has gone that crazy.

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    I feel that people generally have no problem with killing the sport of football but are too scared to mention or look into hockey and concussions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    I feel that people generally have no problem with killing the sport of football but are too scared to mention or look into hockey and concussions.

    Truer words have never been spoken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    I feel that people generally have no problem with killing the sport of football but are too scared to mention or look into hockey and concussions.
    I don't know about that. Fighting in Hockey has almost been eliminated over night so to speak. Those were the main guys getting the concussions. Hockey has had a penalty for any head contact now for quite a few years. Game misconducts in the OHA and Minor Hockey. Major Junior has also really cracked down on fighting and the body contact is nothing like it used to be. Football has done mighty little about head contact except for on the QB's. Football better get on board on the Helmet hits or the Courts will do it for them. IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    I don't know about that. Fighting in Hockey has almost been eliminated over night so to speak. Those were the main guys getting the concussions. Hockey has had a penalty for any head contact now for quite a few years. Game misconducts in the OHA and Minor Hockey. Major Junior has also really cracked down on fighting and the body contact is nothing like it used to be. Football has done mighty little about head contact except for on the QB's. Football better get on board on the Helmet hits or the Courts will do it for them. IMO
    I just think majority could live without tackle football and that there would be more uproar, say if hockey was ever threatened/ on the brink of extinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    I just think majority could live without tackle football and that there would be more uproar, say if hockey was ever threatened/ on the brink of extinction.
    You've got a point there. But Hockey has tried to address the concussion issue a lot more than Football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    I don't know about that. Fighting in Hockey has almost been eliminated over night so to speak. Those were the main guys getting the concussions. Hockey has had a penalty for any head contact now for quite a few years. Game misconducts in the OHA and Minor Hockey. Major Junior has also really cracked down on fighting and the body contact is nothing like it used to be. Football has done mighty little about head contact except for on the QB's. Football better get on board on the Helmet hits or the Courts will do it for them. IMO
    I have refereed many levels of hockey for 35 years, most concussions are caused by collisions during play.
    Actually at the pro level there is much more physical contact (bodychecking) than there used to be, the players are in much better condition (faster), the equipment offers way more protection and shifts are shorter thus more high speed collisions.
    Most if not all hockey helmets offer very little protection to the brain, a clean hit can cause a concussion just as an elbow to the head can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    I feel that people generally have no problem with killing the sport of football but are too scared to mention or look into hockey and concussions.
    Soccer has been looked at marginally for heading the ball, which no one can tell me doesn't cause head trauma. They must have been too busy looking at that ridiculous scare story about goalies getting cancer from artificial turf.

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    "Those who hate you..." is a Nixon quote. Not the best guy to quote.

    After watching some NCAA games this week, I saw many occasions where the replay official got the ref to stop the game to review whether a player targeted with his helmet on the previous play. If the verdict was yes, the player was automatically ejected.

    I wonder if the pro leagues would ever adopt that.

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