Argos want what TFC has - and vice versa

[1971GreyCup]

I find BMO easier to get to, especially from the West. Lots of "secret" lots in Liberty village, really easy West end Medieval Times/Raptors lot. If you tailgate, you have a whole reserved lot. The train drops you off steps from the gate.

At the dome, I remember waiting for 1/2 hr on the Spadina exit, then another 1/2hr to park underground for $20 back then. Not exactly convenient. To catch a train, you would have to leave 30 minutes early to take the very long Skywalk.

It's true, coming in from the west by car is considerably easier than the East, especially Monday to Friday. The DVP is often a problem and by Bloor you have to he entire City of Toronto heading home west in front of you. So bad that we've often driven to the west side and come down 427 to approach BMO Field from that side.

I think our solution for 2018 is to take the GO train to the game, but that means abandoning tailgating.

I'd add that the traffic problem becomes incrementally more difficult. After 10 years, you ask yourself how did it get this bad? No improvement in sight.

[doubleblue]

It's true, coming in from the west by car is considerably easier than the East, especially Monday to Friday. The DVP is often a problem and by Bloor you have to he entire City of Toronto heading home west in front of you. So bad that we've often driven to the west side and come down 427 to approach BMO Field from that side.

I think our solution for 2018 is to take the GO train to the game, but that means abandoning tailgating.

I'd add that the traffic problem becomes incrementally more difficult. After 10 years, you ask yourself how did it get this bad? No improvement in sight.

Agreed. I have always maintained the hassle of getting to the games is a big part of some fans staying homes and watching on TV.

[Joe Barnes]

Agreed. I have always maintained the hassle of getting to the games is a big part of some fans staying homes and watching on TV.

No doubt, there are challenges in getting to the games. This year, I was able to make every game - last year I missed a few - that's how it goes...but when the majority of Argo fans choose to stay home the majority of the time, as it now appears, then we have the situation as it now exists: Argos, with what the numbers tell us is a strong fan base, LOOKING like losers, who should just move to Halifax (as the Premier of Saskatchewan suggested). Meanwhile, the soccer team that has a much smaller fan base look like world beaters because the stadium is always raucous and full. This is the perception people have across the country, both CFL fans and detractors, especially in the GTA. At some point Argo Nation has to start coming to the stadium in greater numbers (not every game but more). Clearly the fan base exists, but until the current fans start to come to the stadium more often, why would a new fan come? If many of the Argos most ardent fans won't bother to actually attend a game, why would a new, young or casual fan make the effort?