BMO Field of Dreams! Good luck to the Argos stadium-mates Toronto FC

[ArgoZ]

actually it only started last year during Icelands miracle run at the Euros

Yup.

TFC supporters have had their own drum/clap version for many years, 2008 is probably right. The whole stadium participating, (made famous by Iceland) has only been a thing since 2016 Euros. I guess you could say some supporter groups are not copying Iceland, but the rest of the stadium is.

[Joe Barnes]

I would say adding seats would be ill-advised. They have a great thing going on at BMO - both teams. Once TFC goes into a rebuild, there will be no need for extra seats for them, and as we know, empty seats don't play well on TV, negatively affect atmosphere and perception of 'a place to be'.

Rebuilding the West side would be a bad idea, as well, IMO. Right now, the original stadium is mostly made of metal, which is why it is so loud when the crowd stomps its feet. This is a huge part of what makes the atmosphere at BMO so good. If you 'improve' the stadium, that likely means reinforced concrete (like most other stadiums and the new East side upper deck at BMO), thus eliminating that unique, sound making quality we currently have. In 2016, my STs were on the upper East side, and it was nowhere near as good as the West, from an atmosphere standpoint. What we have now is excellent - leave it alone!

[DoubleBlue_Red]

I would say adding seats would be ill-advised. They have a great thing going on at BMO - both teams. Once TFC goes into a rebuild, there will be no need for extra seats for them, and as we know, empty seats don't play well on TV, negatively affect atmosphere and perception of 'a place to be'.

Rebuilding the West side would be a bad idea, as well, IMO. Right now, the original stadium is mostly made of metal, which is why it is so loud when the crowd stomps its feet. This is a huge part of what makes the atmosphere at BMO so good. If you 'improve' the stadium, that likely means reinforced concrete (like most other stadiums and the new East side upper deck at BMO), thus eliminating that unique, sound making quality we currently have. In 2016, my STs were on the upper East side, and it was nowhere near as good as the West, from an atmosphere standpoint. What we have now is excellent - leave it alone!

TFC won't need to rebuild - its MLS not MLB. They will simply spend $20 million on designated players.

[Scooter McCray]

TFC won't need to rebuild - its MLS not MLB. They will simply spend $20 million on designated players.

Where does the money come from to be able to do this?

[DoubleBlue_Red]

Where does the money come from to be able to do this?

MLSE, ticket sales, tv contract with TSN, sponsorship w/ Bell Media, KIA, BMO etc.

If the team is successful then they are playing more games in CONACAF which means more ticket sales.

[Scooter McCray]

MLSE, ticket sales, tv contract with TSN, sponsorship w/ Bell Media, KIA, BMO etc.

If the team is successful then they are playing more games in CONACAF which means more ticket sales.

None of those things add up to anywhere near $20 million. Unless MLSE chooses to take a huge bath on the team. Which they have to be. The only hope for ROI has to be ever rising expansion fees. That cannot be a sustainable business model. The Argos generate 5X the tv viewership but pay players $5,000,000 combined. If the Argos are losing MLSE $5m per year how much are TFC losing them?

[R.J]

According to Forbes, TFC loses about $9 million
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissm.../#6ac68d8b199c

And that's with MLSE using the Leafs to sell TFC corporate sponsorship and tickets (about $21 million according to Rick Westhead a couple of years ago). Imagine what the Argonauts could do if Rogers bought into them, and the Argonauts were a part of MLSE.