BMO Field of Dreams! Good luck to the Argos stadium-mates Toronto FC

**Argobouncer** · 12-09-2017, 12:54 PM

Good luck to Toronto FC in the MLS Cup today - Make BMO Field the home of Champions!

Wish there was more support going both ways from the teams & their fans playing in the same venue - support each other like in every other city in North America.

The ground share has proven to be a huge success for both teams - & it seems now like it may well save the Argos long term in being a great atmosphere to watch a game at (which more & more fans are finding out).

**smokeslet'sgo** · 12-09-2017, 06:48 PM

Ironic how a while back Dean Blundell asked listeners if watching an Argo or TFC game was worse (I forget the exact context of his question). Now both teams are champions while he was ridden out of town on a rail. I normally don't enjoy peoples' failures but that one is an exception

**Tau Ceti** · 12-09-2017, 06:59 PM

Lucked into a last minute ticket. Kudos on a very convincing win.

Great times at BMO these last two years. The double championship must feel especially nice for Larry Tanenbaum. Happy for him.

**rdavies** · 12-09-2017, 07:15 PM

Schadenfreude is our friend : )

**Argo57** · 12-09-2017, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by rdavies

Schadenfreude is our friend : )

Love it.
His show sucked!

**Argofan_1000** · 12-10-2017, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by rdavies

Schadenfreude is our friend : )

Dean needed to include his own show as an option. Can't ask now, he works under the Gardiner everyday washing wind shields. Does a good job too.

Congrats to TFC

**ToneDeaf** · 12-09-2017, 07:39 PM

A very noble thread to start here and kudos to the OP.

Here’s to both championship winning teams striving forward.

Aaaaargooooooooooooos! Go TFC!

**rdavies** · 12-09-2017, 07:48 PM

**Argo57** · 12-09-2017, 08:37 PM

I have several friends who have been diehard TFC fans since the beginning, most who sent me congrats after our latest World Title.
To them I say congrats and enjoy the party tonight!

**argos1873** · 12-09-2017, 10:23 PM

Congrats to TFC.

**Shatto** · 12-09-2017, 11:46 PM

Glad to see the "congrats" on Argo Twitter soon after the TFC win. Classy thing to do, in spite of the long delay of the same "congrats" coming the other way when Argos won the GC.

Regardless---well done and well deserved TFC.

**Joe Barnes** · 12-10-2017, 09:05 AM

Way to go, TFC! Congrats on a well earned victory...

**RB957** · 12-10-2017, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Shatto

Glad to see the "congrats" on Argo Twitter soon after the TFC win. Classy thing to do, in spite of the long delay of the same "congrats" coming the other way when Argos won the GC.

Regardless---well done and well deserved TFC.

I totally agree and wish TFC all the best. However, I was told by two separate friends today that they heard on the media (not sure which) congratulations being offered to TFC for winning the first "major" championship in Toronto since 1993. If that is true, (and there is no reason to doubt my friends, who are both credible and heard it independently), then that sucks. If intentional, it shows that there is still a bias to some degree to the CFL. I hope it was just an oversight.

**"Issues"Mcgee** · 12-10-2017, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by RB957

I totally agree and wish TFC all the best. However, I was told by two separate friends today that they heard on the media (not sure which) congratulations being offered to TFC for winning the first "major" championship in Toronto since 1993. If that is true, (and there is no reason to doubt my friends, who are both credible and heard it independently), then that sucks. If intentional, it shows that there is still a bias to some degree to the CFL. I hope it was just an oversight.

That has CBC written all over it. They criticize every other sport but ignore the ills that come with soccer such as violence and neo nazism.

**Argobouncer** · 12-10-2017, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by RB957

I totally agree and wish TFC all the best. However, I was told by two separate friends today that they heard on the media (not sure which) congratulations being offered to TFC for winning the first "major" championship in Toronto since 1993. If that is true, (and there is no reason to doubt my friends, who are both credible and heard it independently), then that sucks. If intentional, it shows that there is still a bias to some degree to the CFL. I hope it was just an oversight.

That's just somebody trolling. Everyone knows MLS is not considered "major" or even close to the elite of the sport. Even just in North America the Mexican league is considered higher than MLS.

**R.J** · 12-10-2017, 02:29 PM

Congrats to TFC and Tanenbaum.

**ArgoGabe22** · 12-10-2017, 07:44 PM

And Argos ruining the turf is a problem? How does this even happen?

113 after the game.
Took some beating.#TFCLive #MLSCup pic.twitter.com/5aa4nPKKrE
— Jarrek (@JarrekTO) December 10, 2017

**Argo57** · 12-10-2017, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22

And Argos ruining the turf is a problem? How does this even happen?

113 after the game.
Took some beating.#TFCLive #MLSCup pic.twitter.com/5aa4nPKKrE
— Jarrek (@JarrekTO) December 10, 2017

I guess the hooligan soccer fan behaviour is part of the game day experience?

**RB957** · 12-10-2017, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22

And Argos ruining the turf is a problem? How does this even happen?

That's disgusting.

**rdavies** · 12-11-2017, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22

And Argos ruining the turf is a problem? How does this even happen?

I saw that as well and that is a total lie.

Might as well get this straight now. Before the Argos went to BMO the object of the TFC "fan" scorn were the "fat" "out of shape" baseball players. There is a significant amount of TFC fans who believe that if they attack other sports and denigrate them that will somehow make soccer/TFC look better and "take over". Neither the Impact or Whitecaps fans do this. Where it all turned was when it was announced the Argos were going to BMO, then you saw full on social media attack.

They post at CFL sites posing as fans and insidiously take shots and denigrate the CFL in any way they can. They do it here and at other CFL sites. They are usually allowed to get away with it and yet if a CFL fan goes to one of their sites they are banned immediately.

Now for the big lie. They like to tell everybody that football destroys their precious turf except that isn't true, it is soccer that does the damage. How do we know that? It comes from the mouth of the groundskeeper at probably the most famous turf in the world, Wembley.

Here is what he says

Tony Stones, Head Groundsman, Wembley Stadium

"We find most damage is caused by football (soccer) players digging in, turning quick, whereas an NFL game it's all solid, it's crunching together, Desso likes that, holds together well, it's when they're doing quick turns, your Rugby Union you get a bit of quick turning in that as well and a bit of scrummaging so you get a bit of mess from that but I'd say most damage comes from football (soccer)

It's warmups, football (soccer) warmups that are the worst thing, that's where we get the most damage from, especially the goalkeepers that will not use his portable goal, they insist on using his main goal that creates us some serious trouble" 51

Now since the sky hasn't fallen and a number of TFC people have seen reason, this issue is not as bad as it was but there are still many who post this lie, Now, the Argos are taking the high road and many TFC fans are classless as always (as seen from not posting congrats to the Argos until after it was mentioned) but that doesn't mean you have to turn your back to some of their tricks.

BTW, the part about soccer being the most damaging to turf is backed up by John Torres the head groundskeeper at Philadelphia's PPL park who hosted a seminar called "Playing Surface Management" at the 2015 MLS draft. Torres says that, though it surprises some people, soccer does the most damage to a playing field of the sports he's worked with. 25

Now before some people get all upset, I'm not trying to start anything, just telling it like it is/was, the situation is much better now, but when obvious lies are put out there, the experts' opinion is out there as well, and it's best to be "armed" with the truth.