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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    TFC's Nathan Phillips Rally.
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    Sad that they have to copy Iceland's Viking Clap.
    It’s been done at TFC since 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdavies View Post
    Possible BMO Field changes (start at 10:35)

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    As for expanding bmo, they had better work with the Argos. Keeping the stands in the northend is a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    A lot of people out for their parade.
    I agree with others the crowd size was similar to the Argo one. Just watch how they show the crowd and everything is a close up. I do think TFC did a great job and the enthusiasm of there fans is infectious. People from work always talk about the atmosphere there. I am sure over the next few years the Argos will move in the same direction. I also think it is very interesting on game day you see a lot of people wearing TFC clothing but you don't see that for the Argos. I believe a lot of the TFC fans are localized in the Liberty Village area. Very different dynamics than what the Argos draw from what I can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BATKINSON001 View Post
    As for expanding bmo, they had better work with the Argos. Keeping the stands in the northend is a good idea.
    Can't do it and fit in a CFL field. That's why there is turf in that end zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Can't do it and fit in a CFL field. That's why there is turf in that end zone.
    I think they mean turning the stands added to the north end for the playoffs into a permanent structure. The downside of this is it eliminates the fan deck/patio feature the Argos have been trying to develop there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Barnes View Post
    I think they mean turning the stands added to the north end for the playoffs into a permanent structure. The downside of this is it eliminates the fan deck/patio feature the Argos have been trying to develop there.
    OK. Not sure I see a great need for more seats at this point, especially if it removes something else that is working.
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    Problem is bmo needs to get to 45-50 for the world cup, so at some point another significant renovation will happen.
    I think the TFC win helps the argos, as we should be able to finally stop talking about the ground share being an issue.
    The field held up fine, both teams played as late into fall as possible (other than a grey cup hosting), both teams won on home turf.
    Aside from a very small group of self described hooligans, the no argos at bmo slogan should be dead.
    And that's only good for the argos. A sports fan is a sports fan, I think you're more likely to get a tfc game atendee to check out an argos game, rather than a retiree who had seasons tix in the early 80s and now watches at home.

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    To echo the above (post came the same time as mine) My understanding, any major expansion will be contingent on hosting World Cup games. One thought is rebuild the West side to the same size as the East. I could be mistaken though.

    Expanding for TFC alone? Despite the good support, if I was MLSE, I would wait until TFC's contention window ends and see what attendance does first.

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    If Canada ever gets the soccer World Cup, it should be provisional that some games are played across the whole country, including the east coast.. Perhaps that way we can obtain a stadium in Halifax that can subsequently be the home of the Schooners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToneDeaf View Post
    It’s been done at TFC since 2008.
    actually it only started last year during Icelands miracle run at the Euros

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    Quote Originally Posted by timlb01 View Post
    I agree with others the crowd size was similar to the Argo one. Just watch how they show the crowd and everything is a close up. I do think TFC did a great job and the enthusiasm of there fans is infectious. People from work always talk about the atmosphere there. I am sure over the next few years the Argos will move in the same direction. I also think it is very interesting on game day you see a lot of people wearing TFC clothing but you don't see that for the Argos. I believe a lot of the TFC fans are localized in the Liberty Village area. Very different dynamics than what the Argos draw from what I can tell.
    I see a lot of people getting on the GO train at Burlington and every stop in between there and Mimico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleBlue_Red View Post
    actually it only started last year during Icelands miracle run at the Euros
    Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    As there were for the Argos in 2012. The true indication is how many people go into Nathan Phillips Square for the rally. I wasn't there today, but from people I know that went to both, the crowd there today was very similar to the Argos celebration 2 weeks ago.
    This is huge. Getting people to NPS at noon on a workday is a real test of a fanbase. I think a lot of people were surprised at how big the Argos rally was, and now that the TFC rally was the same size, everyone in the media can put aside their anecdotal notions that TFC is more popular that the Argonauts in this town

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleBlue_Red View Post
    actually it only started last year during Icelands miracle run at the Euros
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    Yup.
    TFC supporters have had their own drum/clap version for many years, 2008 is probably right. The whole stadium participating, (made famous by Iceland) has only been a thing since 2016 Euros. I guess you could say some supporter groups are not copying Iceland, but the rest of the stadium is.

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    I would say adding seats would be ill-advised. They have a great thing going on at BMO - both teams. Once TFC goes into a rebuild, there will be no need for extra seats for them, and as we know, empty seats don't play well on TV, negatively affect atmosphere and perception of 'a place to be'.

    Rebuilding the West side would be a bad idea, as well, IMO. Right now, the original stadium is mostly made of metal, which is why it is so loud when the crowd stomps its feet. This is a huge part of what makes the atmosphere at BMO so good. If you 'improve' the stadium, that likely means reinforced concrete (like most other stadiums and the new East side upper deck at BMO), thus eliminating that unique, sound making quality we currently have. In 2016, my STs were on the upper East side, and it was nowhere near as good as the West, from an atmosphere standpoint. What we have now is excellent - leave it alone!

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    The most I see them doing for any World Cup bid is adding temporary seats to bring capacity up a bit. To be brutally honest though, it isn't like Canada would be hosting the biggest games in a World Cup that has the U.S. and Mexico as co-hosts.
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    Adding a second deck on the West side has always been part of the plan. That's why they built the West side roof so high, to accommodate a second deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Barnes View Post
    I would say adding seats would be ill-advised. They have a great thing going on at BMO - both teams. Once TFC goes into a rebuild, there will be no need for extra seats for them, and as we know, empty seats don't play well on TV, negatively affect atmosphere and perception of 'a place to be'.

    Rebuilding the West side would be a bad idea, as well, IMO. Right now, the original stadium is mostly made of metal, which is why it is so loud when the crowd stomps its feet. This is a huge part of what makes the atmosphere at BMO so good. If you 'improve' the stadium, that likely means reinforced concrete (like most other stadiums and the new East side upper deck at BMO), thus eliminating that unique, sound making quality we currently have. In 2016, my STs were on the upper East side, and it was nowhere near as good as the West, from an atmosphere standpoint. What we have now is excellent - leave it alone!
    TFC won't need to rebuild - its MLS not MLB. They will simply spend $20 million on designated players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleBlue_Red View Post
    TFC won't need to rebuild - its MLS not MLB. They will simply spend $20 million on designated players.
    Where does the money come from to be able to do this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter McCray View Post
    Where does the money come from to be able to do this?
    MLSE, ticket sales, tv contract with TSN, sponsorship w/ Bell Media, KIA, BMO etc.

    If the team is successful then they are playing more games in CONACAF which means more ticket sales.

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