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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo View Post
    Intangibles can be extremely important: the best example in football... Jerry Rice.

    Pinball and even better example, and from the CFL.

    As far as Qbs with potential - lots of them have plenty of it. Jonathan Jennings was said to be the next CFL superstar (with the NFL to be calling soon afterwards) - and this after he flashed more than the bit of CFL QB skills that Franklin has shown; but Jennings faltered badly under pressure of being the Lions starter last season. Vernon Adams was a very good college ball QB (and also played great in the East/West Shrine all-star game) - Jim Popp traded away a 1st round draft pick to get Adams - who didn't seize the Als starting job and who was only able to make 3rd string on the Riders depth chart last season (still say Adams has lots of potential - IMO). Andrew Buckley had a completion % of 76.2 (better than any starter in the league) in over a full game worth of playing time for the Stamps last season.

    As far as QB accomplishments in the CFL (and FAs) - Collaros, Harris, Masoli and Bridge have shown more than Franklin - stats wise and in playing in meaningful games - especially the first two.

    I wouldn't count on Franklin being the starter anywhere. Going by what I've seen from the actual CFL field of play; that last game he had a start/playing time - against a defeated & demoralized Argo D in their $hite season - Franklin did look very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    Pinball and even better example, and from the CFL.

    As far as Qbs with potential - lots of them have plenty of it. Jonathan Jennings was said to be the next CFL superstar (with the NFL to be calling soon afterwards) - and this after he flashed more than the bit of CFL QB skills that Franklin has shown; but Jennings faltered badly under pressure of being the Lions starter last season. Vernon Adams was a very good college ball QB (and also played great in the East/West Shrine all-star game) - Jim Popp traded away a 1st round draft pick to get Adams - who didn't seize the Als starting job and who was only able to make 3rd string on the Riders depth chart last season (still say Adams has lots of potential - IMO). Andrew Buckley had a completion % of 76.2 (better than any starter in the league) in over a full game worth of playing time for the Stamps last season.

    As far as QB accomplishments in the CFL (and FAs) - Collaros, Harris, Masoli and Bridge have shown more than Franklin - stats wise and in playing in meaningful games - especially the first two.

    I wouldn't count on Franklin being the starter anywhere. Going by what I've seen from the actual CFL field of play; that last game he had a start/playing time - against a defeated & demoralized Argo D in their $hite season - Franklin did look very good.
    Are you trying to insinuate that Buckley is better or has shown more than Franklin ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Are you trying to insinuate that Buckley is better or has shown more than Franklin ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Are you trying to insinuate that Buckley is better or has shown more than Franklin ?

    No - not at all - Buckley has less CFL playing time to go by; he does have a better career completion %, for what that is worth.

    I realize some very usual suspect CFL fans would totally discount Buckley as belonging anywhere in the young QBs with CFL potential conversation - a young American QB who had put up those passing stats, and I'd bet it would be a totally different story. Just like there will be pretty well zero talk or recognition of Laval's Hugo Richard in that conversation or the one for the CFL draft. OTOH - there should be all sorts of amusing fawning over some young US college ball QBs who might be available to the CFL for TCs. ;o)

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