The Manziel window is now open.
Sadly, I think he'd sell more tickets, so I wouldn't be suprised if our new owners mlse are making calls
My take is still (until other wise stated by the Argos) that Ricky is coming back and Franklin will eventually sign as his back up with the promise to see more playing time and of course learning under Trestman, the QB Guru.
The NFL will want to see Franklin play more before committing any big time money to him, which is exactly what the Giants told Bridge. There is no substitute for game time playing experience. I don't think it is a big deal for Ricky to go "out on top". He's playing well, should have most of the offence back and things were really just starting to come together in the last half of the season. They can hit the ground running in 2018. Might just to be a bigger deal for Ricky to add to his HOF stats than just having won another Grey Cup. Been there done that a few times.
Of course I have been wrong before, just can't remember. lol
I agree. Ricky Ray is not paycheck-driven but we all have families.
My hunch hasn't changed. I think Ricky is coming back. Why? Cos he's in "QB Nirvana" and he knows it. And, because he also knows he's capable. Hank did it, Damon did it and most importantly another immobile QB with a quick release did it under the same system. He can win another CUP, he can jump into 2nd All-Time in "Most Pass Completions," and 3rd in "Yards in a season/passing."
And he can message his future in coaching under a couple of former QB's who know how to coach.
It's win-win.
I think Ricky will rest his bones, and be back AND I don't buy that James Franklin won't buy what Jim Popp is selling also.
Call it optimistic, but I see a large amount of FA's returnees next year, with Ray and Franklin getting paid for starts.
Winning programs are magnetic.
I'm pretty sure that Jarious Jackson had to play a few games in 2012 due to an injury to Ray, so not exactly what I'd call healthy. I find it interesting that you always seem to bring up Collaros when he wasn't even discussed, almost as if you have nothing else to fall back on. The actual numbers show that in terms of games where the QB entered the game, Ray has played in 2 more regular season games, but he and Collaros are even when including playoffs. In terms of starting, Ray has started one more regular season game, but Collaros has a 1 game advantage over Ray when playoffs are included.
I also find it odd that QB wins (including Grey Cups) are not a valid stat to some, unless it benefits Ricky Ray in a discussion.
Last edited by R.J; 12-29-2017 at 05:07 PM.
You stated that Ray started in more games than Collaros, which technically isn't true since Collaros has started in 1 more game than Ray when including playoffs. And you also stated that Ray's two healthy seasons lead to Grey Cup, which again isn't true since Jackson had to start a few games in 2012 due to Ray being injured. Ray's "healthy" season were in 2014 and 2017, where he started in 17 regular season games and played in the playoffs.
Sounds to me as though you're still bitter about the whole Ray vs. Collaros thing.
Last edited by R.J; 12-30-2017 at 11:36 AM.
Actually if you want to get technical I said played not started. I consider 2012 a healthy season too.
Why would I be bitter? The Argonauts made the right choice and kept Ray who lead us to another Grey Cup. Collaros was oft injured and then benched in favour of a mediocre at best backup Quarterback. Collaros hasn't won a game since 2016.
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