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    Before the year ends I have to thank Jim and Scott

    I said at the time that the Willy trade will prove out to be a massive success for the Argos in 2017. I was right. Thanks Scott and Jim.

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    Haha...yup, I guess it caused the demise of a previous regime and ushered in a new one. I'm just glad that it all worked out. Such a special season.

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    I guess thanks should be in order, their incompetence lead to us obtaining Popp and Trestman lol.

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    Things really went south for both guys in 2016 but I still believe they are both good football men who did build our 2012 World Championship team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Things really went south for both guys in 2016 but I still believe they are both good football men who did build our 2012 World Championship team.
    I'm with you on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Things really went south for both guys in 2016 but I still believe they are both good football men who did build our 2012 World Championship team.
    Barker was also responsible for bringing many of the players on board of this year's Championship team. I hope he gets another shot at being a GM in the league.

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    Barker was a good recruiter (mostly, albeit he had some blind spots in the secondary) who ran the team (and won a championship) under an owner who refused to spend money, and through a period of horrendous schedules that created a huge disadvantage for the team. He definitely deserves another shot somewhere. Milanovich had his flaws as a coach, but he is a good man and he, too, deserves credit for winning a championship despite having to play the Eastern Final on the road against a powerhouse Montreal team. I don't know if he and his coaching colleagues can squeeze a playoff victory out of Blake Bortles, but he deserves to do well and I'm pulling for him.
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    Barker and Milanovich should be commended for holding it together in a completely compromised environment. Same may even characterize it as 'bush league.'

    Many players didn't want to come to Toronto. We had a bad football program.

    They deserve all the credit in the world for winning the Grey Cup, but I think time caught up with them. The circumstances wore them down.

    When JB started, he showed to be a better than average recruiter who gets points for solid bushwacking finds & some key reclamation projects too.

    He was able to keep some good football players around and build enough continuity to win that championship. He hired a good young offensive mind in Scott.

    The circus atmosphere; moving training camps, and so called practice facilities, the fire -- is not on them.

    Ultimately, however, their records were unremarkable and it was time to move on after they were taking hacks and missing more times than not at the end.

    I think Barker deserves another chance in a good program (if not in Broadcasting), and I wish SM all the success in the world with Jacksonville. Looks like he's doing a hell of a job.

    We may see him back in the CFL again someday, or if all works out for him, as a OC in the NFL. He's learning and getting better all the time.

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    Interesting that Milanovich seems to be getting most if not all the credit for the Jaguars and Bortles moderate successes both on here and throughout the CFL media. Marrone and Hackett must be scrubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Interesting that Milanovich seems to be getting most if not all the credit for the Jaguars and Bortles moderate successes both on here and throughout the CFL media. Marrone and Hackett must be scrubs.
    It's also coming from the US/NFL media and from Jaguar fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Interesting that Milanovich seems to be getting most if not all the credit for the Jaguars and Bortles moderate successes both on here and throughout the CFL media. Marrone and Hackett must be scrubs.
    Former Argo HC and Alouettes OC (and Bortles current QB coach) getting increased attention on an Argo fan site and CFL media?
    Unbelievable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Former Argo HC and Alouettes OC (and Bortles current QB coach) getting increased attention on an Argo fan site and CFL media?
    Unbelievable!
    Als OC in title only.
    I guess Milanovich is the next Ditka, Madden or Landry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Als OC in title only.
    I guess Milanovich is the next Ditka, Madden or Landry.
    Simply stating the obvious in why Milanovich is getting attention on this site and with the CFL media.
    I’m sure Milanovich’s coaching has helped Bortles this season, sorry if the notion aggravates you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Simply stating the obvious in why Milanovich is getting attention on this site and with the CFL media.
    I’m sure Milanovich’s coaching has helped Bortles this season, sorry if the notion aggravates you.
    I'm sure he has as well. I just find it odd that Marrone (former oc) and Hackett (Jags current OC) aren't getting any credit. Hackett completely revamped the offense.

    Admittedly I'm very thankful for Milanovich leaving on his own. Saved our owners some money and we got a much better coach out of it (Trestman).

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    I'm sure he has as well. I just find it odd that Marrone (former oc) and Hackett (Jags current OC) aren't getting any credit. Hackett completely revamped the offense.

    Admittedly I'm very thankful for Milanovich leaving on his own. Saved our owners some money and we got a much better coach out of it (Trestman).
    Most coaches have a shelf life and I’ll agree it was time for a change in Toronto, Trestman is a breath of fresh air.
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    Your hatred for Milanovich seems to know no bounds, SnowRogue. Maybe time to let it go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Your hatred for Milanovich seems to know no bounds, SnowRogue. Maybe time to let it go.
    Once again I'll ask, am I not on your ignored list ?
    You seem to care a little too much about what I think.

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    Barker and Milanovich won the Grey Cup with the Argonauts in four years. That's more than you can ask from a HC and GM duo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Issues"Mcgee View Post
    Barker and Milanovich won the Grey Cup with the Argonauts in four years. That's more than you can ask from a HC and GM duo.
    That combo really only had one bad season, which was 2016, They both deserve a lot of credit for fielding mostly competitive and contending teams during their time with the Argos with little support from ownership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Once again I'll ask, am I not on your ignored list ?
    You seem to care a little too much about what I think.
    Keep asking.
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