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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    I was wrong on Foster OV. He checked in at the combine 5'11 3/8" 225 25 reps. Doesn't look that tall in person. But Boateng 6' 1/2" 233 16 reps was available. I remember Foote getting some reps at DE in one home game anyway. Not big enough against the big OT's in the League now but was quick off the ball. But who knows maybe they can develop him into a MLB. About the right size.
    I watch a bit of CIS ball. I had Spooner rated ahead of Woods and Boateng away ahead of Foote and hind sight kind of backs that up. Maybe they didn't interview very well, who knows.

    I saw Pickett you mentioned from Guelph play this year. Looks like he could be a good Guard in the CFL, but with all the NCAA guys coming out this year he might not go until the 2nd or 3rd round.

    Fabion Foote is more a DT - and he played a bit there for the Als towards the end of last season; the Als tried to go with NI DTs but vets Shologan and Donnie O and Westerman (from BC) were not very good last season IMO (like a lot of Als players - Durant & Earnest Jackson too); Foote may pan out for the Als, but IMO they picked him wayyyy too high last CFL draft (the Ticats got DT Justin Vaughn - way better college ball resume - in the 5th round and he played some for them and looked decent for a rookie.)

    The Als could easily go with an NI DE starter - between a couple of their former draft picks - Jesse Joseph (out of US college ball - been with them a few seasons now and was impressive last season IMO when he finally got to play some reps at DE), and J-S Blanc (former CIS star DE out of Montreal - they had him listed as a fullback and he played STs, but when he finally got in some at DE last season - he looked very strong IMO (sack, pressures, knock-down, in a game against Ray & the Argos).

    I don't think Mavis there has a clue about, or, any respect for, Canadian talent though; he will pre-determine 7 only NI starting jobs; hopefully they can find some good talent at those positions and the new coaching staff can evaluate well (like finding a better receiver to replace Giguere).

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    I meant Foster not Foote. Fixed that. Foote, Foster whats the difference. lol

    I agree about Montreal Canadian talent. Doesn't look too deep on paper. They have to hope some of their young guys have some game.
    What have they got, about three starting OLinemen in Matte, Blake and Gagnon. Three safeties or OLBers in Bouley, Ackie and Wright. DT Westerman, DE Joseph and maybe a WR in Johnson. Not many all stars there or depth after them. We will see what Reed can add through the free agent signings. Might be a hard sell to get some guys to go to Montreal right now.

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    Another problem for the Als is that they have far too many players 30 or older. Last year that number was 21 when the largest number on any other team was 12. Older players, while providing experience, are more likely to be injured and wear down as the season wears on.
    I just counted the number of players on their roster who are 30 or older. It's 22, even after getting rid of Shologan, Lewis and Guiguere. Kavis is not doing enough to build a younger team and his recruiting of Canadian talent in the draft so far, other than possibly Foote, hardly suggests that he will be able to build much on that.
    Last edited by jerrym; 01-26-2018 at 03:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrym View Post
    Another problem for the Als is that they have far too many players 30 or older. Last year that number was 21 when the largest number on any other team was 12. Older players, while providing experience, are more likely to be injured and wear down as the season wears on.
    I just counted the number of players on their roster who are 30 or older. It's 22, even after getting rid of Shologan, Lewis and Guiguere. Kavis is not doing enough to build a younger team and his recruiting of Canadian talent in the draft so far, other than possibly Foote, hardly suggests that he will be able to build much on that.

    Mavis has at least added a good starting NI in Westerman at DE; and now has signed kicker Van Glyswick (good move not just relying on the inconsistent Bede) and former BC RB Murray-Lawrence (probably just depth, but speedster who can return kicks).

    Mavis could do some good things in the draft to improve their Canadian talent; but I would not count on that at all, and a confirmed GOB myopic like him will be going with the 7 only need apply plan - with Westerman added - probably has his 7 only already figured out.

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    Can we just stop with all the nicknames? Mavis, ego-Jones, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    Can we just stop with all the nicknames? Mavis, ego-Jones, etc.
    No more Tillspin, Kenty or Mr. Ed (the talking jack-@$$) Hervey either ? ...... awww ;o)

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    We're asking nicely, OV. Please?

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    Everybody had a nick name back in OV's era. Before P C was hatched up.

    Come to think about it. That would make a great thread. Remembering nick names from past players.

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    OVA, who would you take with our pick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCargosfan View Post
    OVA, who would you take with our pick?
    Probably go with one of the O-linemen - several NCAA starters, plus some CIS all-stars to choose from. Big position group where Canadians get to play = always need depth or an up-and-comer who could maybe start soon - big, deep crop there this year IMO.

    Or - one of the safety projects - Onyeka (Laurier) or Bennett (GGs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    Probably go with one of the O-linemen - several NCAA starters, plus some CIS all-stars to choose from. Big position group where Canadians get to play = always need depth or an up-and-comer who could maybe start soon - big, deep crop there this year IMO.

    Or - one of the safety projects - Onyeka (Laurier) or Bennett (GGs)
    Are Onyeka or Bennett likely to be available when we pick in round 2?

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    We have a ways to go for the draft with the combine first, where players go up and down in the eyes of the GM's. I have always been against taking a WR, RB or safety in the first round until their name is Jesse Lumsden etc. Then if they are that good they will go to the NFL anyway.
    The offense line is where most team will use 3 or 4 Canadians which is half the ratio, so IMO you should keep trying to get the best players available there.
    Barker screwed up again IMO taking Brian Jones instead of OG/OT Jason Lauzon-Seguin who was rated at that pick, and by some as the best O-Lineman in that draft. That has proven correct as he is a two year starter and one of the main stays of the Ottawa front line. WR/SB Jones was a good CIS player and may yet be a useful but not a game changer. Dozens of better imports available for that position and Canadians in later rounds or free agents. (Noel, Williams & Ralph)
    Quad Spooner, a big tough Guard who just needs some seasoning before starting, was there for the taking last year. Popp does the same thing take a guy who IMO will never start in the League.
    IMO some teams just don't scout the CIS well enough.
    Barker got lucky taking Jamal Campbell in a later round, he has a chance of eventually starting. But wouldn't Lauzon-Seguin look good at RG now, with Spooner and Campbell backups on the OLine instead of Watman, Sackey and Kolankowski. Kolankowski may turn into a good backup center who can start but again he was a 7th round pick or something.
    So after getting carried away and saying all that I think Popp should take the best Offensive Lineman available at #9. Worry about the other positions in the later rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCargosfan View Post
    Are Onyeka or Bennett likely to be available when we pick in round 2?

    I sort of doubt it; but maybe; guess it depends on Combine results; Onyeka ran a very poor 40 time for a corner at the CIS East-West Combine last spring; he will be viewed as a safety project by the CFL i bet; Bennett OTOH had a very good set of testing #s, and has played D-backfield, OLB and returned kicks for the GGs.


    Have to disagree with doubleblue above re Brian Jones - he may have not panned out yet in the CFL, but he hasn't really played much; IMO he possibly could be a real impact player as a big target slotback - like Sinopoli for Ottawa - Jones is bigger & faster; and this type of receiver can have more impact than an average O-lineman; and there aren't any import receivers that style around in the CFL now - more like a smaller tight end from US ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    I sort of doubt it; but maybe; guess it depends on Combine results; Onyeka ran a very poor 40 time for a corner at the CIS East-West Combine last spring; he will be viewed as a safety project by the CFL i bet; Bennett OTOH had a very good set of testing #s, and has played D-backfield, OLB and returned kicks for the GGs.


    Have to disagree with doubleblue above re Brian Jones - he may have not panned out yet in the CFL, but he hasn't really played much; IMO he possibly could be a real impact player as a big target slotback - like Sinopoli for Ottawa - Jones is bigger & faster; and this type of receiver can have more impact than an average O-lineman; and there aren't any import receivers that style around in the CFL now - more like a smaller tight end from US ball.
    I agree that Jones has not had the sufficient chances to show whether he could be an impact player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrym View Post
    I agree that Jones has not had the sufficient chances to show whether he could be an impact player.
    It's not easy to get a chance when you miss training camp in each of your first 2 years in the league. It can be argued that at least he has been around to collect a pay cheque over that time. Most players with no pro experience that miss training camp are cut outright.
    It's us vs the rest of the country

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    It's not easy to get a chance when you miss training camp in each of your first 2 years in the league. It can be argued that at least he has been around to collect a pay cheque over that time. Most players with no pro experience that miss training camp are cut outright.
    Advantage to having the right passport and being a draft pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Advantage to having the right passport and being a draft pick.
    Unlike the Khalil Paden's or Boardhands Grant's of the CFL - mediocre import receivers who get multiple chances at actual playing time due to passport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    Unlike the Khalil Paden's or Boardhands Grant's of the CFL - mediocre import receivers who get multiple chances at actual playing time due to passport.
    Change that one word and you've got Sam Giguere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCargosfan View Post
    Change that one word and you've got Sam Giguere.
    AKA waste of serious speed.
    It's us vs the rest of the country

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrym View Post
    I agree that Jones has not had the sufficient chances to show whether he could be an impact player.
    I think Jones gets that chance this year as he is on his last year of his contract I believe. They do need to see what he can do, however they could have done that when Coombs was out but they did not!!

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