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  1. 02-15-2018, 10:44 AM #1
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    What's wrong with the Athletic?

    Yet again... in this email from the Athletic do you notice anything?

    Thursday, February 15, 2018
    Kaitlyn McGrath writes:
    Dear Maple Leafs, Raptors, Blue Jays and TFC,
    We need to talk.


    Which prompted me to reply:
    Actually, you should be (yet again) apologizing to the Argonauts and their fans (who are subscribers, such as myself) for leaving them out/ignoring them yet again. Is this on purpose? This is the kind of things that makes me reconsider my subscription. Wow, how ignorant. For a “sports journalist” to ignore the Argos (recently purchased by MLSE, in case you didn’t realize this) is really so sad.

    We will see if I get some sort of response. Give that the Argos season ticket holders were given subscriptions to the Athletic, you would think that the Argos would not be so blatantly ignored. Pathetic.
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  2. 02-15-2018, 11:01 AM #2
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    Nothing CFL related from the Athletic in quite some time. Admittedly, once my subscription runs out, I don't plan on renewing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Nothing CFL related from the Athletic in quite some time. Admittedly, once my subscription runs out, I don't plan on renewing.
    Probably the same with me--they do write interesting stuff, but most of the time I simply forget I have the subscription.
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  5. 02-15-2018, 05:20 PM #5
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    I might get flak for this, but this is a free market society. If they don't want to cover us, it's their right not to. It's also our right not to purchase or subscribe to their magazine.
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  6. 02-15-2018, 05:44 PM #6
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    No wonder so many in the media see Argo fans as a bunch of crybabies. Leafs and Raptors are in full swing. TFC and Jays are on the verge of starting up. The article is about the Olympics taking away attention from Toronto sports at this moment in time. It is the middle of the off-season for the Argonauts.
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  7. 02-16-2018, 02:23 AM #7
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    Big fan of The Athletic, but I certainly don't use it for CFL news.

    They've gotten some big-time talent the past few years. And frankly, they have to succeed, otherwise journalism is dead in about 15 years as giving away your product for free doesn't work.
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  8. 02-16-2018, 09:46 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCargosfan View Post
    Big fan of The Athletic, but I certainly don't use it for CFL news.

    They've gotten some big-time talent the past few years. And frankly, they have to succeed, otherwise journalism is dead in about 15 years as giving away your product for free doesn't work.
    KC, I can't believe that you are supporting journalists over useless bloggers. LOL!!

    Speaking of which, 3DN blocked me on twitter. Drew Edwards must have some really thin skin below that ridiculous looking beard of his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    KC, I can't believe that you are supporting journalists over useless bloggers. LOL!!

    Speaking of which, 3DN blocked me on twitter. Drew Edwards must have some really thin skin below that ridiculous looking beard of his.
    3DownNation is the worst, they make something out of nothing on a weekly basis, also a lot of click bait going on over there. I wouldn't put journalists on a pedestal though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    3DownNation is the worst, they make something out of nothing on a weekly basis, also a lot of click bait going on over there. I wouldn't put journalists on a pedestal though.
    They will one day have a feature story on who Duron Carter had a coffee with because he will have tweeted a picture about it. I have never seen more articles based on tweets in my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    They will one day have a feature story on who Duron Carter had a coffee with because he will have tweeted a picture about it. I have never seen more articles based on tweets in my life.
    Surprised they didn't write an article about you being blocked yet. "Angry Angelo bashes the bloggers and beards of 3DN"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    KC, I can't believe that you are supporting journalists over useless bloggers. LOL!!

    Speaking of which, 3DN blocked me on twitter. Drew Edwards must have some really thin skin below that ridiculous looking beard of his.
    haha, I know, right?

    That's too bad 3DN blocked you. They should be encouraging fan engagement instead of declining to hear a different opinion. Maybe they'll change their mind in the future.
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  13. 02-16-2018, 03:14 PM #13
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    I don't currently buy the athletic. Did they have any coverage of free agency this week? I'm sure they cover free agency and drafts in the other sports. If they wont cover the CFL or the Argos I won't buy the service.
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  14. 02-17-2018, 02:06 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter McCray View Post
    I don't currently buy the athletic. Did they have any coverage of free agency this week? I'm sure they cover free agency and drafts in the other sports. If they wont cover the CFL or the Argos I won't buy the service.
    They did not have any coverage of free agency this week. They did, however, have a good article on Leo Cahill.
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  15. 02-18-2018, 09:35 PM #15
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    I don't recall anyone stating the writers over at 3DN have no sources or contacts. It seems to me it's the way they do things over there that causes the negative feedback.
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    3DN is a decent blog, probably the best there is about Cdn football. Edwards is a journalist who shows up day after day to ask questions of the Ticats, even after he has ripped them, so he deserves respect for that. And I would never agree that he is a Ticat shill -- yes, he has gone on ad nauseam about a few calls that he felt went against the Cats, but everyone's entitled to an opinion, and it's not as if he has never said a call went wrongly against another team, or in favour of the Cats. He has written and said many things that were highly critical of the organization, as anyone who reads him every day could attest.

    That said, 3DN under Drew's leadership has made some incredibly stupid posts (e.g. Genie Bouchard and multiple posts about Dean Blundell's attention-seeking idiocy). And there have been some "scoops" that turned out to be based on questionable if not erroneous information, and some stories torqued way out of proportion. One I complained to Edwards about was a report that headlined the "news" that Wayne Parrish was a "leading candidate" to become CFL commissioner. It was based on a throwaway line buried deep in a CP story that made no such claim, simply said Parrish's name "had been mentioned." There's a huge gap between a name being mentioned (by whom, the source copy did not say) and that individual being a leading candidate.

    The biggest issue I have with 3DN is that it seems to aspire to be the leading source of both news and commentary about Cdn football, but it doesn't seem prepared to follow stringent standards for accuracy in its "news" content. That Parrish story was torqued by the most basic standards of journalism, yet they declined to change it even when challenged.
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    The Genie Bouchard schmoz was a real eye opener and turnoff from 3dn for me. It pisses me off when supposed "journalists" try to troll readers.
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  18. 02-21-2018, 08:13 PM #18
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    It's all about page views - Edwards own words btw, on one of the 3dn podcasts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    It's all about page views - Edwards own words btw, on one of the 3dn podcasts.
    Shocker, people want page views when they make an effort and contribute. That is how they can monetize their site. Its kind of how the world is working these days. Page views= the ratings of social media. Best thing to do? Unfollow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Gonzo View Post
    Shocker, people want page views when they make an effort and contribute. That is how they can monetize their site. Its kind of how the world is working these days. Page views= the ratings of social media. Best thing to do? Unfollow.
    I think we all get how it works. That was Edward's remarks after taking heat on some of the Riders stories 3dn did this past season. Ex. The Brandon Bridge wanting out of Saskatchewan story, which was based on Bridge stating that he wanted to be the guy, and hoped it would be in Riderville, but if they didn't want him, "he'd make them pay".
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