ARGOS GAME THREAD - Preseason Week 2 - Toronto ARGOS @ Hamilton Tiger-Cats

[ArgoRavi]

Hey Ravi - what happened to your big Manziel (Heismann) vs. Picton (Hec) match-up this game? - Jim Popp was so looking forward to it. What the heck, huh? LOL !

Not meant to be, I guess.

[OV Argo]

Player of the game IMO - Argo newcomer DB Trumaine Washington - tight coverage and knock-downs, a pick, and a sack on Manzeil

Watson showed good hands at receiver; same for Alex Charette.

Greg Morris looked powerful with some carries late.

Bethel-Thompson & Franklin both looked pretty good.

That young DE (?) looked impressive late in the game.

[Argo57]

Player of the game IMO - Argo newcomer DB Trumaine Washington - tight coverage and knock-downs, a pick, and a sack on Manzeil

Watson showed good hands at receiver; same for Alex Charette.

Greg Morris looked powerful with some carries late.

Bethel-Thompson & Franklin both looked pretty good.

That young DE (?) looked impressive late in the game.

Just back from THF, Washington had a great game, Franklin and Bethel-Thompson got lots of practice scraping bad snaps from their shoelaces most of the evening.
Some tough decisions coming as Popp has assembled some impressive talent in the off season.

[Bleeds Double Blue]

Franklin wasn't getting much help from his center. Those snaps were all over the field.

[Wobbler]

Franklin wasn't getting much help from his center. Those snaps were all over the field.

Yeah, the snapping was perhaps the only real negative in an otherwise strong game by our guys.

[Rich]

Franklin wasn't getting much help from his center. Those snaps were all over the field.

I thought Franklin started to look really good on that one 4th q drive, it all came together for a few plays. His footwork is so crisp and he moves so smoothly, and it looks like they have indeed added some read-option type stuff for him, getting him on the move to hand off the ball. But he also looked good running the familiar Ricky plays from last year too. He is going to add another dimension to this offence that will make it even harder to stop.

[argotom]

Brandon Burks had the play of the game, could be a keeper.

[Rich]

Brandon Burks had the play of the game, could be a keeper.

Yeah Burks looked good but so did Boom Williams, who also had a great kick return. What happened to Khiry Robinson? The backup RB spot is gonna be a real tough decision, and Morris looks like a player too.

[argotom]

For me, Manziel was average at best today.
Showed some flashes, but nothing evenly remotely close to Flutie like.
But, there is no question in my mind Masoli is their first stringer now and for the rest of the season save and except if there is a similar Collaros meltdown.

[Rich]

Showed some flashes, but nothing evenly remotely close to Flutie like.

And how did Flutie look in his first CFL pre-season game? If I was a betting man I'd put money down on Manziel starting by the Labour Day Classic.

[Argo57]

And how did Flutie look in his first CFL pre-season game? If I was a betting man I'd put money down on Manziel starting by the Labour Day Classic.

It won’t take that long Rich.

[Argo57]

For me, Manziel was average at best today.
Showed some flashes, but nothing evenly remotely close to Flutie like.
But, there is no question in my mind Masoli is their first stringer now and for the rest of the season save and except if there is a similar Collaros meltdown.

Disagree regarding Masoli, the minute he falters the Ticat faithful will be screaming for Manziel to replace him and I suspect June Jones will oblige, trust me Hamilton has not brought Manziel in to stand on the sidelines.

[R.J]

For me, Manziel was average at best today.
Showed some flashes, but nothing evenly remotely close to Flutie like.
But, there is no question in my mind Masoli is their first stringer now and for the rest of the season save and except if there is a similar Collaros meltdown.

Umm Manziel's only been up here for 2 weeks. You may also want to check into how Flutie did his first year - hint : it wasn't pretty. Flutie is the greatest CFL player of all time I'm not even sure why the comparison is even being made.

Masoli still doesn't look like a bonafide starter to me, he's unquestionably the starter right now, but I'd bet that Manziel will be the starter around Labour Day (give or take 2 weeks).

[AngeloV]

For me, Manziel was average at best today.
Showed some flashes, but nothing evenly remotely close to Flutie like.
But, there is no question in my mind Masoli is their first stringer now and for the rest of the season save and except if there is a similar Collaros meltdown.

I don't know what you were expecting. He's only been here for like 10 days and the playbook was very simple. I thought all things considered he was very impressive.

[R.J]

I don't know what you were expecting. He's only been here for like 10 days and the playbook was very simple. I thought all things considered he was very impressive.

I get the feeling that AT and some others are a little jealous that Manziel is with the Cats.

[Argo]

I don't know what you were expecting. He's only been here for like 10 days and the playbook was very simple. I thought all things considered he was very impressive.

I agree, AV. His post-game interview showed that he has the necessary football IQ, and that calling him intense wouldn't be an understatement.

[argolio]

I know it was only a pre-season game, but our #2s and 3s dominating their #1s and 2s on the road is about as good as it gets. A lot of the new guys made really good cases for themselves.

Not even going to criticize Rod Black for his endless Manzel-mania because I fully expected him to go all out and pander to the ESPN audience.

[R.J]

I know it was only a pre-season game, but our #2s and 3s dominating their #1s and 2s on the road is about as good as it gets. A lot of the new guys made really good cases for themselves.

Not even going to criticize Rod Black for his endless Manzel-mania because I fully expected him to go all out and pander to the ESPN audience.

I haven't had a chance to rewatch the game on pvr yet, but if anyone added Johnny Manziel to the Rod Black drinking game: I think they may have passed out drunk by the first quarter lol.

[Ron]

TSN was in fine Johnny Football mode tonight. Bet they bought all the KY in Toronto before this broadcast.

[AngeloV]

Not even going to criticize Rod Black for his endless Manzel-mania because I fully expected him to go all out and pander to the ESPN audience.

Sometimes I think people will blame Black for putting on those old hi-lite packages of Manziel. Black isn't a great PBP guy, but the hate for him is way over the top IMO.