Picking up the pieces

[rdavies]

With all this said I’d love to hear your detailed plan in “putting on the gloves and swinging back at others that are fighting dirty”?

And that's just what I mean, people who think they are too far above it to bother getting into the fray or are naively clueless. Anything that is worth saving is worth fighting for.

When you go online to the CFL sites and all you see is negative things about the Argos and the CFL, do you honestly think it's the Argo and CFL fans who are doing that? It's people who want to see the CFL and Argos DEAD! But no, ol' RDavies is paranoid and we'll just give him the condescension treatment and we'll just be nice folk until the franchise goes into the ground.

Are some people too old to know that the social medias are how the future fans get their news and communicate. If they see nothing but bad and negative news without rebuttal who do you think they are gonna believe? They're gonna believe the guy who posted the negative news because the new possible "fan" doesn't know any better.

But those guys who want to see the CFL and Argos dead don't think like that. And when MLSE didn't run the operation the way they thought they were loud about their protests. They definitely subscribe to the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

So we'll just meekly accept the situation and muddle along and muzzle crazy old rdavies and then close the thread, so discourse (civil or otherwise) doesn't happen.

Nope, there's nobody out there hoping the Argos die and insidiously posting in many places to that end to try and influence people to hurry it on. Not happening at all.

Ok, I got my frustration out and I'm not directly pointing fingers at anybody, especially those who are loyal ticket buyers and supporters but there has to be a recognition of this issue. And I recognize "mainstream" media and trolls alike for this behaviour, it's real easy to kick somebody when you let them. A little pushback from the Argos community would be well served. Would it kill some people to respond to a Trash Madani or Damien Cox article and let them know what you think.

[R.J]

Actually in many cases I do.
I have been an Argo fan for 40 years and have had season seats for the majority of them, I also wear Argonaut gear to “fly the flag” so to speak and talk up the team and CFL to anyone that will listen.
Truth is over the last 35 or so years various Argonaut ownership groups have been the masters of their own demise in this market and it will be a slow climb out of it.
As for your assertion that Argofans are reluctant to put on the gloves and swing back I would argue that purchasing tickets and attending games is the only way to fight back as a fan, it’s the organizations job to get their shit together to start filling the seats (which seems to be starting to happen).
With all this said I’d love to hear your detailed plan in “putting on the gloves and swinging back at others that are fighting dirty”?

Fans sometimes do have to make those choices. I'm a season ticket holder for the Argos, Rock, Leafs and Ticats - if I had to only pick two of them: I'd go with the Argos and Rock. As of right now I'm still trying to figure out if I want to get season tickets for either the Marlies or Steelheads, and with that I'll probably drop my Ticat tickets - my dollars can only stretch so far lol.

And that's just what I mean, people who think they are too far above it to bother getting into the fray or are naively clueless. Anything that is worth saving is worth fighting for.

When you go online to the CFL sites and all you see is negative things about the Argos and the CFL, do you honestly think it's the Argo and CFL fans who are doing that? It's people who want to see the CFL and Argos DEAD! But no, ol' RDavies is paranoid and we'll just give him the condescension treatment and we'll just be nice folk until the franchise goes into the ground.

Are some people too old to know that the social medias are how the future fans get their news and communicate. If they see nothing but bad and negative news without rebuttal who do you think they are gonna believe? They're gonna believe the guy who posted the negative news because the new possible "fan" doesn't know any better.

But those guys who want to see the CFL and Argos dead don't think like that. And when MLSE didn't run the operation the way they thought they were loud about their protests. They definitely subscribe to the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

So we'll just meekly accept the situation and muddle along and muzzle crazy old rdavies and then close the thread, so discourse (civil or otherwise) doesn't happen.

Nope, there's nobody out there hoping the Argos die and insidiously posting in many places to that end to try and influence people to hurry it on. Not happening at all.

Ok, I got my frustration out and I'm not directly pointing fingers at anybody, especially those who are loyal ticket buyers and supporters but there has to be a recognition of this issue. And I recognize "mainstream" media and trolls alike for this behaviour, it's real easy to kick somebody when you let them. A little pushback from the Argos community would be well served. Would it kill some people to respond to a Trash Madani or Damien Cox article and let them know what you think.

Where's your cape ?

[rdavies]

Where's your cape ?

And there's just one small reason why the Argos are in the shitter. How's the sand down there?

[ArgoGabe22]

And there's just one small reason why the Argos are in the shitter. How's the sand down there?

Thanks a lot RJ. You and your penny pinching ways and that great idea of initiating blackouts. Then you decided to bring in the Blue Jays and helped promote this major league attitude. Then you allow media members to diss the CFL, or just completely ignore its existence all together. If I knew you were the problem, I would've not allowed you to take things this far.

[R.J]

Thanks a lot RJ. You and your penny pinching ways and that great idea of initiating blackouts. Then you decided to bring in the Blue Jays and helped promote this major league attitude. Then you allow media members to diss the CFL, or just completely ignore its existence all together. If I knew you were the problem, I would've not allowed you to take things this far.

That's me.......

[Argo57]

Fans sometimes do have to make those choices. I'm a season ticket holder for the Argos, Rock, Leafs and Ticats - if I had to only pick two of them: I'd go with the Argos and Rock. As of right now I'm still trying to figure out if I want to get season tickets for either the Marlies or Steelheads, and with that I'll probably drop my Ticat tickets - my dollars can only stretch so far lol.


Where's your cape ?

You evil bastage!