CFL and Argos looking at solution for BMO end zone turf and attendance problems

[Neely2005]

Some issues are not so easily solved when the bean counters look at the options. Frankly, MLSE probably looks at it that they already did a lot by even having the team in BMO so the team has to carry it's weight financially before MLSE makes any expensive concessions that will have zero impact in ticket sales. Having a president with a sole task doesn't help that.

MLSE spends more on the Salary of 1 Raptors starting player than they do on the Argonauts. I'm sure they can afford to at least use a better Turf for half of 1 undersized Endzone.

[macspectrum]

[QUOTE=Neely2005;130623]MLSE spends more on the Salary of 1 Raptors starting player than they do on the Argonauts. I'm sure they can afford to at least use a better Turf for half of 1 undersized Endzone.[/QUOTE

ah perspective !
bmo field issues are embarrassing and make cfl look very amateurish
all cfl fields should be the same size -
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entire field should be of one surface
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period [double entendre]

[CFLfan]

MLSE spends more on the Salary of 1 Raptors starting player than they do on the Argonauts. I'm sure they can afford to at least use a better Turf for half of 1 undersized Endzone.

But don't forget that MLSE does not own BMO, the stadium is owned by the city, maintained by the city. Any upgrades/improvements are authorized by the city, even though MLSE is the main tennant and has funded most of the expansion/upgrades.

If it's right what Greg Ellingson was saying in the 3down article, it would seem that a new type of rubber backed turf would be an easy solution. It couldn't be that expensive to cover 18' X 65'

[Shatto]

Ron is undoubtedly correct that MLSE is probably looking at this from a purely financial point of view. However, one would hope that an organization as wealthy as MLSE, could look past the dollars and cents and make a decision in the best interest of the team and players.

With respect, it has been my personal experience that when you give the responsibility of an organization/project to one individual and make it clear that that is his/her sole responsibility to ensure the its success, you get a much higher advocacy for the organization/project. For that reason, I would prefer to see a president of the Argos, who has the team not just as his/her prime responsibility but as their only responsibility

[Neely2005]

[QUOTE=macspectrum;130626]

MLSE spends more on the Salary of 1 Raptors starting player than they do on the Argonauts. I'm sure they can afford to at least use a better Turf for half of 1 undersized Endzone.[/QUOTE

ah perspective !
bmo field issues are embarrassing and make cfl look very amateurish
all cfl fields should be the same size -
and
entire field should be of one surface
.
period [double entendre]

Are you this upset about the other CFL Fields that aren't regulation size? Montreal for instance.

[macspectrum]

[QUOTE=Neely2005;130826]

Are you this upset about the other CFL Fields that aren't regulation size? Montreal for instance.

i think the non regulation size of fields across the country is PART of the reason some people stay away from the cfl and refer to it as 'bush league'
make ALL end zones 15 yd deep - easier for usa db's to adapt and to standardize ALL fields
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and put posts at BACK of 15 yd end zones
no goal post interference and more 'going for it' on 3rd down
all pat can now come from 3 yd line as b4

[Argo57]

[QUOTE=macspectrum;130829]

i think the non regulation size of fields across the country is PART of the reason some people stay away from the cfl and refer to it as 'bush league'
make ALL end zones 15 yd deep - easier for usa db's to adapt and to standardize ALL fields
.
and put posts at BACK of 15 yd end zones
no goal post interference and more 'going for it' on 3rd down
all pat can now come from 3 yd line as b4

I think you’re one of the few that actually think of or care about this issue TBH.

[ArgoZ]

I’m actually good with 15 yd end zones across the board. Posts back of end zone and then removal of missed FG single. Neither has any impact on current attendance, but I would be ok with the change.

[macspectrum]

I’m actually good with 15 yd end zones across the board. Posts back of end zone and then removal of missed FG single. Neither has any impact on current attendance, but I would be ok with the change.

'removal of missed FG single.'
i would add to remove the single [rouge] altogether
i'd hate to see a team line up for a punt from the 10 yd line just to get a single at end of tie game

[lazycro]

Attendance increased slightly last night

ATTENDANCE: 11,857

[Godfather]

I was just on the T.O Star website. Top sports story? the EDM-SASK game. Unreal.

[Argocister]

I was just on the T.O Star website. Top sports story? the EDM-SASK game. Unreal.

That's depressing

[Mightygoose]

Attendance increased slightly last night

ATTENDANCE: 11,857

And also up a bit from the Thursday game last year (11,616). Plus last year's number would have factored in any free vouchers from ST accounted used last year plus they we're selling upper east side seas at 12.00 for that game. So a snail's pace worth of progress here.

[ArgoFan1]

'removal of missed FG single.'
i would add to remove the single [rouge] altogether
i'd hate to see a team line up for a punt from the 10 yd line just to get a single at end of tie game

You're not much of a fan of Canadian football then !!!

[macspectrum]

I was just on the T.O Star website. Top sports story? the EDM-SASK game. Unreal.

u r correct - unreal

[Joe Barnes]

I’m actually good with 15 yd end zones across the board. Posts back of end zone and then removal of missed FG single. Neither has any impact on current attendance, but I would be ok with the change.

Huh? These are some of the things that make the Canadian game unique. Get rid of the Rouge? Seriously?

[ArgoZ]

Huh? These are some of the things that make the Canadian game unique. Get rid of the Rouge? Seriously?

Not really. 15 isn’t much different than many of the fields we have been used to. FG posts will change missed FG returns but the missed FG Rouge is ridiculous. CDN game still stay unique.

[macspectrum]

I was just on the T.O Star website. Top sports story? the EDM-SASK game. Unreal.

write an email to mzwolinski@thestar.ca to say thx for his argos article - i did - may raise perception re media of argos therefore maybe more ticket sales
after all, its only 30 sec of your life
u catch more flies w/ honey than vinegar - yeah, that was me that typed that...lol
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hii was very pleased to read your article re argos win over redblacks


please let your fellow sports reporters know that argos are important to toronto
their coverage is important !


i hope u continue to write about them
again, congrats on the article
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[macspectrum]

You're not much of a fan of Canadian football then !!!

not wanting to see a tie game end w/ a rouge being kicked from 10 yd line makes me less of a fan ?
really ? do u even read what u typed ?
lol ....lol
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apology to mod as we are supposed to try to be nice during this bye week

[paulwoods13]

I was just on the T.O Star website. Top sports story? the EDM-SASK game. Unreal.

Have you, or any of the fans here who are understandably not happy about this, given a dime to the Star in the recent past? This is not a "bad news judgment" issue -- far more than anything else, it is a "reduced revenue" issue. And it's not just the Star that is reduced to pushing thru wire copy without human intervention.