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    From what I see in the top 30, I can understand why the CFL is not there. Good lord. Does anyone think that the same type of people who are tuning in to Big Brother and the Amazing Race, and America's got Talent are tuning to the CFL? lol...Its not a CFL problem, its a society problem, and I'm not sure how the CFL can compete against a society problem. Oh well,it keeps going on and on, somehow. Its been pronounced dead more times than Elvis and Gordon Lightfoot combined. I'll keep watching, but a hint to the league, if you want money from me, you better put it free to air.

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    BTW, look at CTV, they are killing the top 30, jeez, imagine if the CFL had a piece of that lead up. Instead its held hostage on TSN. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argos1873 View Post
    I'll keep watching, but a hint to the league, if you want money from me, you better put it free to air.
    Someone's gotta give them more than TSN for that to happen. I don't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    There could be many factors at play including cost.
    2 Tickets $100.00/game
    Go Train $44.00/game
    Dinner $70.00
    Additional concessions $30.00
    It adds up.
    Considering that that is the cost for two, that's a responsible and comparatively cheap sports day/night out. $122 doesn't even buy you a Leaf ticket, barely covers parking at Charger games, and won't cover dinner with the bar tabs that many people run up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argolio View Post
    Someone's gotta give them more than TSN for that to happen. I don't see it.
    Well since TSN and CTV are Bell Media, its not a matter of giving more, the CFL would love to be on CTV. Bell Media doesn't want to give up its TSN subscribership. But I'm telling you unless they give up to either free to air, or affordable internet viewing, TSN and the CFL are in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argos1873 View Post
    Well since TSN and CTV are Bell Media, its not a matter of giving more, the CFL would love to be on CTV. Bell Media doesn't want to give up its TSN subscribership. But I'm telling you unless they give up to either free to air, or affordable internet viewing, TSN and the CFL are in trouble.
    Name the teams you can regularly watch without a cable subscription. This weekend, the Leafs and Jays are on Rogers. The Raptors, TFC and Argos on TSN. You will be able to catch some American college football and the NFL, without choice I must add, but that's from another country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argos1873 View Post
    From what I see in the top 30, I can understand why the CFL is not there. Good lord. Does anyone think that the same type of people who are tuning in to Big Brother and the Amazing Race, and America's got Talent are tuning to the CFL? lol...Its not a CFL problem, its a society problem, and I'm not sure how the CFL can compete against a society problem. Oh well,it keeps going on and on, somehow. Its been pronounced dead more times than Elvis and Gordon Lightfoot combined. I'll keep watching, but a hint to the league, if you want money from me, you better put it free to air.
    I watch Big Brother and I know I am not the only CFL fan who does. I have heard of CFL fans watching The Amazing Race. Honestly though, I watch little of the conventional TV networks anymore. If I want to watch a series, I usually look for one on HBO, TMN, or Netflix.
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    Ok heads in the sand, carry on.

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    [QUOTE=ArgoRavi;133576]I watch Big Brother and I know I am not the only CFL fan who does. I have heard of CFL fans watching The Amazing Race. Honestly though, I watch little of the conventional TV networks anymore. If I want to watch a series, I usually look for one on HBO, TMN, or Netflix.[/QUOTE

    Ok Ravi, which side of 50 are you. You don't have to answer here, but really they don't care, they only care which side of 35 are you. But whatever you watch big brother and the amazing race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Name the teams you can regularly watch without a cable subscription. This weekend, the Leafs and Jays are on Rogers. The Raptors, TFC and Argos on TSN. You will be able to catch some American college football and the NFL, without choice I must add, but that's from another country.
    Rogers puts lots of Saturday NHL games on CBC and City TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    I watch Big Brother and I know I am not the only CFL fan who does. I have heard of CFL fans watching The Amazing Race. Honestly though, I watch little of the conventional TV networks anymore. If I want to watch a series, I usually look for one on HBO, TMN, or Netflix.
    We watch Big Brother too. We've watched The Amazing Race in the past too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argos1873 View Post
    Well since TSN and CTV are Bell Media, its not a matter of giving more, the CFL would love to be on CTV. Bell Media doesn't want to give up its TSN subscribership. But I'm telling you unless they give up to either free to air, or affordable internet viewing, TSN and the CFL are in trouble.
    I agree 100%. Most people I know under 30 don't have cable and many people are getting rid of it or scaling down to skinny basic. The CFL is a small league that without wide exposure will be in serious trouble.

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    No question the league is going to have more ways to distribute their product. With 100% of the games on a declining medium, it makes it tough but the CFL is far from alone with this challenge. It affects most but most sports teams and league. The NFL and HNIC on Saturdays/most playoffs are really the only ones immune to this.

    With TSN launching direct, I would like to how their steaming numbers do. Overall, with the number of cord cutters and still having ratings being up about 5% year to date does bode well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    I agree 100%. Most people I know under 30 don't have cable and many people are getting rid of it or scaling down to skinny basic. The CFL is a small league that without wide exposure will be in serious trouble.

    Godfather
    TSN has it's own streaming App.

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    Not surprising that the live mics games are down though; especially with the mics being muted a lot more this season, and essentially just being left with the QB calls and cadence. Everyone knew it was a gimmick from day one, so hopefully they move on from it after this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Considering that that is the cost for two, that's a responsible and comparatively cheap sports day/night out. $122 doesn't even buy you a Leaf ticket, barely covers parking at Charger games, and won't cover dinner with the bar tabs that many people run up.
    For many families attending live sporting events is an expensive proposition which makes watching at home the only viable option.
    Impressive parking cost for Chargers games and very impressive bar tab I must add👍
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    Quote Originally Posted by argos1873 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    I watch Big Brother and I know I am not the only CFL fan who does. I have heard of CFL fans watching The Amazing Race. Honestly though, I watch little of the conventional TV networks anymore. If I want to watch a series, I usually look for one on HBO, TMN, or Netflix.
    Ok Ravi, which side of 50 are you. You don't have to answer here, but really they don't care, they only care which side of 35 are you. But whatever you watch big brother and the amazing race.
    I am on the right side of 50 but not by a lot and on the wrong side of 35. For the record, I watch Big Brother but NOT The Amazing Race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    For many families attending live sporting events is an expensive proposition which makes watching at home the only viable option.
    Impressive parking cost for Chargers games and very impressive bar tab I must add👍
    $100 to park has been a bone of contention among those supporting the move to L.A.
    Bar, plus your dinner. Regardless, I've seen people buy a few rounds for their group and be down $200 in no time.
    Going out can be expensive anywhere. Argonauts games are CHEAP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Considering that that is the cost for two, that's a responsible and comparatively cheap sports day/night out. $122 doesn't even buy you a Leaf ticket, barely covers parking at Charger games, and won't cover dinner with the bar tabs that many people run up.
    Maybe on the secondary market, but I'm a Leafs season ticket holder and I pay less than $100 a game.

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