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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    While Popp was the GM when Montreal released Carter very late in the 2016 season, that was really Jacques Chapdelaine's move. If the Argos are interested, then I suspect it is because Trestman believes that the veteran leadership in Toronto is solid enough to keep Duron in line, if necessary. There is no doubt in my mind that this move by the Riders was NOT financial in nature.
    The main reason was probably his attitude and behaviour, but those reasons seem to always reflect on the contract. If he was cheaper, maybe he lasts longer or the whole season. There is usually always financial implications. They didn’t want to put up with him, nor was he worth the money to put up with him.

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    Like I said earlier, it's always an adventure with Carter.


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    In my opinion, he’s too “me first” and not a team player from what I’ve seen. However, I trust Popp and Trestman in terms of running things and if they think that his benefits outweight the costs, then by all means.

    Although I’d say don’t sign him myself, I think he’d take some attention and you’d see SJ Green light it up even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrym View Post
    Like I said earlier, it's always an adventure with Carter.

    That sounds a lot like the derogatory remarks one makes just before putting an offer in on a house one loves.😂😂
    “it's not the strongest who survive nor the most intelligent but the ones most adaptable to change.’ Charles Darwin

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    Great talent and a difference maker. But..........all the draw backs have already been said. Could they put up with him for 9 games and the playoffs? He would have fit in on one of Leo Cahill's team.

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    I think he proved he can be a team player just by the fact that he allowed the team to take him off the O and move him to D. From what I’ve read, he had a problem with OC McAdoo. Jones created this problem in my books. I say go after him. If anyone can get the best out of him, it’s Trestman. With the cap savings the Argos have from marquee players being 6 gamed, I see no risk. He doesn’t conform, cut him, even if it means taking a cap hit on his salary. As I said, they’ve already had tons of cap relief where they can afford to take the hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I think he proved he can be a team player just by the fact that he allowed the team to take him off the O and move him to D. From what I’ve read, he had a problem with OC McAdoo. Jones created this problem in my books. I say go after him. If anyone can get the best out of him, it’s Trestman. With the cap savings the Argos have from marquee players being 6 gamed, I see no risk. He doesn’t conform, cut him, even if it means taking a cap hit on his salary. As I said, they’ve already had tons of cap relief where they can afford to take the hit.
    I agree.

    To reference another previous comment... if he'd fit on a Leo Cahill team, well then, that's a feature not a bug, IMO. If I wanted to watch robots, there are a number of YouTube videos of latest and greatest automatons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo View Post
    I agree.

    To reference another previous comment... if he'd fit on a Leo Cahill team, well then, that's a feature not a bug, IMO. If I wanted to watch robots, there are a number of YouTube videos of latest and greatest automatons.
    Well said. Although I'm sure there are many who think their morals are much higher than they are in reality that would object to his signing.
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    green said he would approve of carter on his team
    and most fans would think green is a stand up guy

    'S.J. Green would ‘definitely’ give Duron Carter his approval if Argos management asked'
    Last edited by macspectrum; 08-14-2018 at 06:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I think he proved he can be a team player just by the fact that he allowed the team to take him off the O and move him to D. From what I’ve read, he had a problem with OC McAdoo. Jones created this problem in my books. I say go after him. If anyone can get the best out of him, it’s Trestman. With the cap savings the Argos have from marquee players being 6 gamed, I see no risk. He doesn’t conform, cut him, even if it means taking a cap hit on his salary. As I said, they’ve already had tons of cap relief where they can afford to take the hit.
    100% agree with this Angelo, very little risk and huge upside in signing him.
    The guy makes plays and would instantly make the Argo O much better.
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    I expect this signing to occur. Among the potential destinations for Carter, the Argos are clearly the best fit and situation for him, while the team truly needs to add a dynamic receiver.

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    Apparently it's down to Toronto & Montreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely2005 View Post
    Apparently it's down to Toronto & Montreal.
    Only reason I could see Montreal is because of John bringing in US viewers for him to be highlighted for NFL.

    We have familiarity in a number of places and probably more of the personality of guys that he'd like around him.
    (SJ, Edwards, Wilder)

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    I would like to take this opportunity to wish all teams involved in the pursuit of Duron Carter nothi g but the best. Having said that, man would he look good in Double Blue despite his short comings. Just too talented.

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    If you get a chance at -- potentially-- the best game breaker in football; you'd be a fool not to sign him. As mentioned above, if he does something egregious, then cut him. This is football, not golf.
    Last edited by Jon Gonzo; 08-14-2018 at 01:27 PM.
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    Argos won a Grey Cup in 2004 with 2 of the biggest head case receivers I can think of in Arland Bruce and Robert Baker. I would have no problem bringing in Carter, and I really think a lot of this him being selfish is overblown. You can't help but wonder who the real head case in this situation is. Chris Jones has not only be disloyal to veteran players over the years, but also to organizations. He really screwed Calgary over when he bolted to join the Argos in 2012, then did the same to Edmonton when he left after a championship to join the Riders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Argos won a Grey Cup in 2004 with 2 of the biggest head case receivers I can think of in Arland Bruce and Robert Baker. I would have no problem bringing in Carter, and I really think a lot of this him being selfish is overblown. You can't help but wonder who the real head case in this situation is. Chris Jones has not only be disloyal to veteran players over the years, but also to organizations. He really screwed Calgary over when he bolted to join the Argos in 2012, then did the same to Edmonton when he left after a championship to join the Riders.
    Ah yes, Robert Baker "The Touchdown Maker." Talk about a thug. I remember him fighting Chuck Winters a couple of times and punching Noel Prefontaine on the sidelines during a game.

    Mike O'Shea had to go over and threaten to thump him, if he didn't relax.

    Robert Baker is a gang-banger and is doing time in a Federal Penn for moving H.

    But truthfully yes, football is a very tough sport played by many many kids from the mean streets and the inner cities.

    You should hear Chuck Winters tell stories about his childhood in Detroit. He lost a brother to a drive-by shooting, and has said many times that sports saved his life

    I recall back when I worked for the Argos, Bernard Williams had all kinds of problems reporting to TC on time cos he'd always get stopped at the border based on previous busts.

    CFL dressing rooms really are an odd-odd mish-mash of inner-city rough boys, well educated rich kids, french canadians, westerners with cowboy hats, islanders and city slickers.

    And the best rooms always come together however odd it may be.

    My guess is that this room would be a good room for Duron Carter, who is an odd duck who (it is said) really only wants to fit in.
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    Seems like Montreal is the front runner to land Carter, would like to see the Argos get him but perhaps Popp-Trestman are being cautious with this one.
    Ultimately I trust their judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Gonzo View Post
    Ah yes, Robert Baker "The Touchdown Maker." Talk about a thug. I remember him fighting Chuck Winters a couple of times and punching Noel Prefontaine on the sidelines during a game.

    Mike O'Shea had to go over and threaten to thump him, if he didn't relax.

    Robert Baker is a gang-banger and is doing time in a Federal Penn for moving H.

    But truthfully yes, football is a very tough sport played by many many kids from the mean streets and the inner cities.

    You should hear Chuck Winters tell stories about his childhood in Detroit. He lost a brother to a drive-by shooting, and has said many times that sports saved his life

    I recall back when I worked for the Argos, Bernard Williams had all kinds of problems reporting to TC on time cos he'd always get stopped at the border based on previous busts.

    CFL dressing rooms really are an odd-odd mish-mash of inner-city rough boys, well educated rich kids, french canadians, westerners with cowboy hats, islanders and city slickers.

    And the best rooms always come together however odd it may be.

    My guess is that this room would be a good room for Duron Carter, who is an odd duck who (it is said) really only wants to fit in.
    The 1994 Lions is probably the worst makeup of players, yet still managed to win the Grey Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Seems like Montreal is the front runner to land Carter, would like to see the Argos get him but perhaps Popp-Trestman are being cautious with this one.
    Ultimately I trust their judgement.

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    Didn't hear any evidence, just conjecture. If DC and his agent are savvy, they'll choose Toronto.

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