Time to convert BMO to Turf ?

[AngeloV]

Not to defend TFC fans, but the reactions of the couple of hundred radical idiots in their jock strap...er support groups, likely is not how the majority of their fans feel.

[Shatto]

AngeloV makes an excellent point and I concur, perhaps a majority don't necessarily agree with the views of those on the TFC fan site. It is the extreme anger and loathing towards the Argos that seems so inexplicable and in some cases so ludicrous and in some other cases so laughable

[smokeslet'sgo]

Giovinco's comments about the field have made TFC fans become apoplectic. The TFC fan forum has many posters demanding the Argos be moved into Lamport stadium to protect their precious turf. They really do seem to dislike us being in BMO--terms like "I loather the Argos" are used. Actually many of the comments are quite funny --like referring to 300lb linebackers! They really believe they have a right to be at BMO as the only tenant. However they don't appear to object to the rugby quite as much if a game were played at BMO.

Their objections are so aggressive and so far over the top, it makes one wonder why they are so angry at us being in the city owned BMO stadium. Could it be fear, that if the Argos start to get improved attendance at the games, along with TV numbers for the Argos about ten times the TFC numbers, they will realize that TFC and MLS really are a far less popular sport in Canada than the CFL and Argos. Who knows but the venom from the TFC fans is so overwhelming on the Fan site that one has to question why the are they so unreasonably angry--does Argo success frighten them? Perhaps

Personally I don't give a you know what what they think. I've never read the forums, I've never watched a TFC game, I've never even known a TFC fan except one guy I played hockey with, and the 2016 Argo home opener was the first time I had ever stepped foot in BMO field. Honestly, when you just ignore them and don't even acknowledge that they exist, it makes your life so much better. They have zero impact on the city sporting landscape, they think they're on par with the Leafs Jays and Raptors but they aren't. They're on the same level as us, and they hate that. I've already talked more about TFC in this comment than I have in my whole life

[Argo57]

Personally I don't give a you know what what they think. I've never read the forums, I've never watched a TFC game, I've never even known a TFC fan except one guy I played hockey with, and the 2016 Argo home opener was the first time I had ever stepped foot in BMO field. Honestly, when you just ignore them and don't even acknowledge that they exist, it makes your life so much better. They have zero impact on the city sporting landscape, they think they're on par with the Leafs Jays and Raptors but they aren't. They're on the same level as us, and they hate that. I've already talked more about TFC in this comment than I have in my whole life

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[R.J]

From my understanding MLSE will probably go with the Desso Grassmaster in the off season.

[Neely2005]

An Giovenco is complaining about TFC II being there too?

As long as the prospects of hosting World Cup games exist, turf doesn't make any sense. Otherwise, the window to do it just past.

If hybrid turf is good enough for the EPL then it's good enough for a 10th rate soccer league like MLS.

http://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/a...h-grass-types/

[Neely2005]

Giovinco's comments about the field have made TFC fans become apoplectic. The TFC fan forum has many posters demanding the Argos be moved into Lamport stadium to protect their precious turf. They really do seem to dislike us being in BMO--terms like "I loather the Argos" are used. Actually many of the comments are quite funny --like referring to 300lb linebackers! They really believe they have a right to be at BMO as the only tenant. However they don't appear to object to the rugby quite as much if a game were played at BMO.

Their objections are so aggressive and so far over the top, it makes one wonder why they are so angry at us being in the city owned BMO stadium. Could it be fear, that if the Argos start to get improved attendance at the games, along with TV numbers for the Argos about ten times the TFC numbers, they will realize that TFC and MLS really are a far less popular sport in Canada than the CFL and Argos. Who knows but the venom from the TFC fans is so overwhelming on the Fan site that one has to question why the are they so unreasonably angry--does Argo success frighten them? Perhaps

These are the same morons that trashed their own precious BMO Field, told a female reporter RIITP and almost set themselves on fire with fireworks in Ottawa. They're misogynist losers.

[CFLfan]

Getting back to the end zone turf problem, why is it a concern now? I don't remember any complaints in the first year or when the Argos hosted the Grey Cup two years ago or last season. What has changed?

[AngeloV]

Getting back to the end zone turf problem, why is it a concern now? I don't remember any complaints in the first year or when the Argos hosted the Grey Cup two years ago or last season. What has changed?

There have been complaints since day 1.

[ArgoRavi]

There have been complaints since day 1.

They do seem to have worsened this season though.

[jerrym]

BMT slipped on the end zone turf and then avoided going into the end zone on the next play to pass, although the game was already lost.

[paulwoods13]

I got on the field for the first time today. It looked to me as if the turf portion is old-fashioned Astro turf style, not field turf. That is, very short fake grass over a rock-hard underlay. Now I understand why players complain -- there is zero chance that any grass or field-turf-style cleat will work well on that turf. So at minimum MLSE needs to install more grass-like turf at that end.

[gilthethrill]

I got on the field for the first time today. It looked to me as if the turf portion is old-fashioned Astro turf style, not field turf. That is, very short fake grass over a rock-hard underlay. Now I understand why players complain -- there is zero chance that any grass or field-turf-style cleat will work well on that turf. So at minimum MLSE needs to install more grass-like turf at that end.

Did you run some patterns Paul?? 😁

[paulwoods13]

Did you run some patterns Paul?? 😁

those days are loooooong gone ...

[Wobbler]

Bethel Thompson's reluctance to drop into the endzone in garbage time was very noticeable in the broadcast.

[ArgoZ]

I got on the field for the first time today. It looked to me as if the turf portion is old-fashioned Astro turf style, not field turf. That is, very short fake grass over a rock-hard underlay. Now I understand why players complain -- there is zero chance that any grass or field-turf-style cleat will work well on that turf. So at minimum MLSE needs to install more grass-like turf at that end.

I've said this before. Artificial turf is not perfect, but the type they have at BMO is aweful. Proper field turf would reduce the slipping significantly. I used to wear soccer cleats (not spikes) on field turf and they worked great. If BMO does go with Grassmaster/hybrid turf next year, the endzones with upgraded Field Turf would match well.

[paulwoods13]

I've said this before. Artificial turf is not perfect, but the type they have at BMO is aweful. Proper field turf would reduce the slipping significantly. I used to wear soccer cleats (not spikes) on field turf and they worked great. If BMO does go with Grassmaster/hybrid turf next year, the endzones with upgraded Field Turf would match well.

Whether BMO switches to hybrid or stays with grass (and I still believe the latter), a Field-Turf-type product in the end zone would match it much better than the 1970s-style turf that is there now.

[Argo57]

Whether BMO switches to hybrid or stays with grass (and I still believe the latter), a Field-Turf-type product in the end zone would match it much better than the 1970s-style turf that is there now.

When you consider the overall cost of the stadium renovation it’s amazing that they seemed to cut corners on the end zone turf.

[Argofan_1000]

Whether BMO switches to hybrid or stays with grass (and I still believe the latter), a Field-Turf-type product in the end zone would match it much better than the 1970s-style turf that is there now.

I would like the field size changed in the CFL. It would take care of this type of problem league wide and the game would not change.

Make the size of the field 60 yards wide X 100 yards long with 15 yard end zones and hash marks on the 2 goal posts. I know some of you won't be able to sleep now but the game itself won't change when you think about it.

Also lets get rid of the on field ratio juggling by getting rid of this rule, keep the team ratio but let the situation determine who plays on the field. It's the next step in the evolution of this game.

Liked the game yesterday even though we lost. Had some young folks with me and they were entertained all game. The Game - music - cheer teams - bands - games - freebees - kiss cams - they liked all of it.

[Shatto]

On the Hamilton station they were talking about how bad the north end surface is for players. Seems it is widely known by other teams that the surface is unacceptable. There is nothing that can be done this year but it would be nice if someone from MLSE, would let us know their plans to solve the problem.