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    why did we lose this game !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfl-cis fan View Post
    why did we lose this game !!
    They lost because of 4 turnovers. This was absolutely a winnable game. Anyway, this was the Franklin we expected and hopefully will see much more of over the final four games of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfl-cis fan View Post
    why did we lose this game !!
    An absolutely winnable game. If the kicker could execute an onside kick, maybe we would have! Though it shouldn't have come to that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Barnes View Post
    An absolutely winnable game. If the kicker could execute an onside kick, maybe we would have! Though it shouldn't have come to that...
    You’re kidding right? This is the first time I have ever seen a loss pinned on a failed on side kick attempt. Hi last kick was excellent. BC did a great job of not letting the Argos get to that ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    You’re kidding right? This is the first time I have ever seen a loss pinned on a failed on side kick attempt. Hi last kick was excellent. BC did a great job of not letting the Argos get to that ball.
    Recovering an onside kick = pure gravy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    You’re kidding right? This is the first time I have ever seen a loss pinned on a failed on side kick attempt. Hi last kick was excellent. BC did a great job of not letting the Argos get to that ball.
    But they had three cracks at it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    You’re kidding right? This is the first time I have ever seen a loss pinned on a failed on side kick attempt. Hi last kick was excellent. BC did a great job of not letting the Argos get to that ball.
    I must say, though, you are right in that I should not pin the loss on the missed on side kicks. It was a lot more than that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Barnes View Post
    I must say, though, you are right in that I should not pin the loss on the missed on side kicks. It was a lot more than that...
    haha. Absolutely. Onside kicks are only done in desperation, and I would guess the success rate is less than 1 in 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    haha. Absolutely. Onside kicks are only done in desperation, and I would guess the success rate is less than 1 in 3.
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    As a Westcoast Argos fan, it was special to take my family to their first "Argos" game yesterday. We've been to several Lions games but it has never worked to all go when the Argos are in town. It was fun to have them all decked out in double blue and while we were not expecting much, we were sad the Argos could not complete the comeback. My family can attest that I was yelling for Franklin in the second quarter and when he finally came in, there was a night and day difference in both execution and excitement in the game. He definitely should be playing next week!

    Getting to watch them live, you really notice who the leaders are and I was particularly impressed with Darby for how he communicates to others on the field. Green took a tremendous hit but was also on the sidelines encouraging others all game. Myles White played fairly well and made a great catch on the third down conversion in the fourth off a strong throw by Franklin.

    Long had them pinned in their own end all night and nailed long field goals and that was really the difference. The Argos then beat themselves by taking way too many penalties in the first half and turning the ball over killing any momentum and of course, waiting too long to make the QB change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Barnes View Post
    An absolutely winnable game. If the kicker could execute an onside kick, maybe we would have! Though it shouldn't have come to that...
    IMO, this was a winnable game, but for a different reason. If Trestman had allowed Franklin play earlier in the game, the Argos might well have come out of it with a win.

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