Game Thread - Argonauts at Lions

[gilthethrill]

Carter with a TD.

Follows it up with a stupid penalty.

Trestman was seen on the sideline telling DC not to worry about that one. He made an effort to punch the ball loose in desperation time. Not a bad penalty in my books.

[Argo57]

Franklin showing why he should be in there, good arm and he can run when he needs to.

[argotom]

In a mop up role, Franklin looking very good.
He has to start next week, but again I would have the other two QB's also involved.

[Argo57]

In a mop up role, Franklin looking very good.
He has to start next week, but again I would have the other two QB's also involved.

Not quite a mop up role.
Priority moving forward should be continuing James Franklin’s development, the kid has all the physical tools to be an elite CFL QB but needs to play.

[argotom]

Not quite a mop up role.
Priority moving forward should be continuing James Franklin’s development, the kid has all the physical tools to be an elite CFL QB but needs to play.

In the one quarter of work and his best as an Argo, Franklin finally lived up to his Edmonton press clippings.
Has to show this consistency going forward.

[Argo57]

In the one quarter of work and his best as an Argo, Franklin finally lived up to his Edmonton press clippings.
Has to show this consistency going forward.

Agreed.

[Shatto]

BTM in 3 quarters----- passes for 97 yds, rushes for 2yds and has 4 interception
Franklin goes in with 14 min left in the 4th quarter---passes for 103 yds, rushes for 61 yds, no interceptions and 2 TD's

Is there any question who should start for the rest of this season? Not just because of his performance in this game but more importantly to determine if Franklin can demonstrate, as he did tonight, if he is the team's QB for next year. Not sure why Trestman has been so stubborn on this issue.

Additionally, it was great to see Carter showing why he can be a valuable asset to the offense.

[Argo57]

BTM in 3 quarters----- passes for 97 yds, rushes for 2yds and has 4 interception
Franklin goes in with 14 min left in the 4th quarter---passes for 103 yds, rushes for 61 yds, no interceptions and 2 TD's

Is there any question who should start for the rest of this season? Not just because of his performance in this game but more importantly to determine if Franklin can demonstrate, as he did tonight, if he is the team's QB for next year. Not sure why Trestman has been so stubborn on this issue.

Additionally, it was great to see Carter showing why he can be a valuable asset to the offense.

The most impressive part of Franklin’s performance was no picks thrown to the Lions D-Line.

[RB957]

BTM in 3 quarters----- passes for 97 yds, rushes for 2yds and has 4 interception
Franklin goes in with 14 min left in the 4th quarter---passes for 103 yds, rushes for 61 yds, no interceptions and 2 TD's

Is there any question who should start for the rest of this season? Not just because of his performance in this game but more importantly to determine if Franklin can demonstrate, as he did tonight, if he is the team's QB for next year. Not sure why Trestman has been so stubborn on this issue.

Additionally, it was great to see Carter showing why he can be a valuable asset to the offense.

100%.

[gilthethrill]

Branden Burks put together a nice outing, had he been able to hang onto that catchable ball from Franklin he may have scored. No doubt we have seen the last of MBT as a starting qb.

[Argofan_1000]

Branden Burks put together a nice outing, had he been able to hang onto that catchable ball from Franklin he may have scored. No doubt we have seen the last of MBT as a starting qb.

we should have won more games with this team.

for next year Franklin looks good and is signed. Carter looked good last night, Cross out of McMaster always plays well. MBT should be signed/extended as he is a solid backup. SJ is always a leader and is solid. Burks very quick - why the drop.

Why did we trade Lemon? TSN web site did a little thing on him and he has more sacks then the entire Argos defence.

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/details...-to-bc~1508245

[jerrym]

I bought a ticket for the game and watched MBT play for three quarters. I want three quarters of my money back.

[Joe Barnes]

I bought a ticket for the game and watched MBT play for three quarters. I want three quarters of my money back.

Good one! As others have said, I hope the MBT experiment is now done. Nothing against him, he seems like a good guy, but that was a truly awful performance. The BC D had his number. They knew what he was going to do and he had no answer, unlike Franklin, who can make things happen with his feet. The question moving forward is this what Trestman wants to see from his QB?

[Bleeds Double Blue]

Well so much for my personal in game winning streak.

[RB957]

Well so much for my personal in game winning streak.

And you were SO close to getting all expense paid trips to the away games for next season.

[R.J]

Saw the game this morning as I was at my cousins wedding last night, and IMO this loss is all on Trestman and his decision to keep Bethel Thompson out there. This was an easily winnable game, as the Argos were playing the Jennings lead Lions and not the Lulay lead Lions. Defence didn't play great yet again, but surprisingly I'm not going to put it on Archer, as the players seem really confused about tackling. Offensively: Thompson's play and Trestman's play calling shit the bed; simple as that. Predictable, and Thompson has very little concept of going through his reads - seems to only look at two options.

I'm not going to put much stock in Franklin coming in at garbage time, but I do think we saw glimpses of what he's capable of. Eg. His running ability (may not be fast, but knows how to use his legs). His arm which is so much better than Thompson heavily overrated arm - anyone else notice Franklin's throw to White with 3 defenders around ? Yeah, Thompson couldn't make that throw (funny enough, I've seen Prukop do it though). And lastly, Franklin actually went through his reads - quite a few plays where you could see he was looking all over the field; again not something Thompson does really well.

Trestman needs to go.

Keep Carter and Franklin on the field together!

[jerrym]

Saw the game this morning as I was at my cousins wedding last night, and IMO this loss is all on Trestman and his decision to keep Bethel Thompson out there. This was an easily winnable game, as the Argos were playing the Jennings lead Lions and not the Lulay lead Lions.
Keep Carter and Franklin on the field together!

I agree. BMT's long passes were nowhere near any Argo receiver. Even some of his five yards and a cloud of dust passes were off target and two of them went for interceptions at the DL. Not only did Franklin play way better, it was obvious in the stands that the entire offence played harder once he entered the game. Carter was barely going through the motions until Franklin entered the game because he probably knew that if he did get open on a long pass the ball would never be near him. I know that's Carter's fault for his attitude but it also says something about what the offence thinks of BMT's skills.

[paulwoods13]

Yeah, Thompson couldn't make that throw (funny enough, I've seen Prukop do it though).

Let me guess, you saw Prukop make that throw last year, at the same time you figured out that MBT isn't any good, right?

[jerrym]

One player who never let's up on offence and maximizes his natural skills not only in this game but in others, was Declan Cross, who, not by accident, also led Argo receivers in number of receptions with four and in yardage with 55.

When Wilder comes back, a mixture of Wilder's power style with Burks and McCluster's shiftiness and speed as alternating RBs or sometimes paired together could give opposition defences trouble.

While the defence did not play great, they did reasonably well compared to past games considering how many twos and outs and interceptions from our offence they were forced to deal with when BMT was QBing

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