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  1. 10-06-2018, 10:16 PM #1
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    Argonauts Officially Eliminated

    With Hamilton having the tie breaker and Edmonton & BC having a game remaining against each other we're eliminated.

    From Grey Cup Champions last season to missing the playoffs this season.

    Lots of blame to go around and some reasons:

    https://www.cfl.ca/2018/10/04/nye-st...s-2018-season/
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  2. 10-06-2018, 10:33 PM #2
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    Still renewing my seats for next season!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    Still renewing my seats for next season!
    For sure, can’t bail on your team when the going gets a little tough.
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  4. 10-06-2018, 11:01 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely2005 View Post
    With Hamilton having the tie breaker and Edmonton & BC having a game remaining against each other we're eliminated.

    From Grey Cup Champions last season to missing the playoffs this season.

    Lots of blame to go around and some reasons:

    https://www.cfl.ca/2018/10/04/nye-st...s-2018-season/
    The ship has run aground with alacrity. Good. Next season starts now. But, please, not the same old same old. I'd like to see the organization get more than $6,000 in value from its $600,000 investment.
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  5. 10-07-2018, 08:10 AM #5
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    Coincidentaly TFC got mathematically eliminated yesterday too. Also in a loss to a Vancouver based team.

    The grass will be well rested at BMO this fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    Still renewing my seats for next season!
    Me too! And looking forward to seeing the Ticat game this Friday...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mightygoose View Post
    Coincidentaly TFC got mathematically eliminated yesterday too. Also in a loss to a Vancouver based team.

    The grass will be well rested at BMO this fall.
    I had the same thought...lets hope it recovers because it's been a horrible field this season for both teams. Of course TFC will be using it again come February, so all bets are off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    Still renewing my seats for next season!
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    Me too! And looking forward to seeing the Ticat game this Friday...
    Absolutely. Will never abandon the Argos. It's something like my marriage. I am in for the long haul!
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  9. 10-07-2018, 10:31 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    For sure, can’t bail on your team when the going gets a little tough.
    Will renew too but things are more than a little tough. This organization needs to make winning seasons (a winning record) a regular occurrence. The last time we had back to back winning seasons was 2006 & 2007!


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...onauts_seasons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Barnes View Post
    Me too! And looking forward to seeing the Ticat game this Friday...
    Time to play spoiler. Missing the playoffs after a Grey Cup win is a bitter pill to swallow but being swept by Hamilton? No effing way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely2005 View Post
    Will renew too but things are more than a little tough. This organization needs to make winning seasons (a winning record) a regular occurrence. The last time we had back to back winning seasons was 2006 & 2007!


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...onauts_seasons
    I’m trying to be positive Neely, a major retool is in order but there are still some good pieces in place to build around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    Still renewing my seats for next season!
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Barnes View Post
    Me too! And looking forward to seeing the Ticat game this Friday...
    Quote Originally Posted by RB957 View Post
    Absolutely. Will never abandon the Argos. It's something like my marriage. I am in for the long haul!
    I'm with you. I love going to games no matter what the scenario is.
    It's us vs the rest of the country
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  13. 10-07-2018, 03:14 PM #13
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    It's like Trestman wanted us to be eliminated and then put Franklin in after he thought the game was out of reach
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    Quote Originally Posted by lazycro View Post
    It's like Trestman wanted us to be eliminated and then put Franklin in after he thought the game was out of reach
    He sounded disingenuous - because, I assume, he didn't believe it himself - in his pre-game interview when saying "We're both fighting for a playoff spot".
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    I'm not saying we would have made the playoffs; however, if Trestman had allowed Franklin to become the starter several games ago after it became clear that BMT could not throw long passes with any accuracy, we might still be in the hunt. I also agree that major personnel changes need to occur to be competitive next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrym View Post
    I'm not saying we would have made the playoffs; however, if Trestman had allowed Franklin to become the starter several games ago after it became clear that BMT could not throw long passes with any accuracy, we might still be in the hunt. I also agree that major personnel changes need to occur to be competitive next year.
    I suppose you could argue this either way.... but where would we have been had Franklin been allowed to stay in as QB as opposed to having been pulled. Let's face it, had Pfeffer not missed a field goal, we could have won the game in Edmonton. I understand that after losing three games in a row that early in the season, a QB change is expected. I am not saying MBT cost us any games himself, however once it started to show that teams were figuring him out, and he was treading water, if not regressing, then the change back to Franklin should have taken place sooner. It's all moot now, but if he is the QB of our future, Franklin would have gained immeasurable experience playing through difficulties and adversity.
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    Admittedly, I defended the decision to stay with MBT as the O scored more points with him at the helm. In hindsight, Popp mad a big move to bring in Franklin. Not giving him the opportunity to work his way out of a tough couple of games was dead wrong. I still believe it shows a disconnect between the HC and the GM, A’s does the decision not to get Carter involved early and often. I stand by my prediction that Trestman will not be back next year.
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    A note of probably non significance, I believe that last year Marc's wife was up here during the season while this season she has not been. Just an anecdote I thought was interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Admittedly, I defended the decision to stay with MBT as the O scored more points with him at the helm. In hindsight, Popp mad a big move to bring in Franklin. Not giving him the opportunity to work his way out of a tough couple of games was dead wrong. I still believe it shows a disconnect between the HC and the GM, A’s does the decision not to get Carter involved early and often. I stand by my prediction that Trestman will not be back next year.
    I agree with most of what you say except on Trestman leaving. I could see that going either way - gone because of his performance this year or staying because of his and Popp's long-term successful relationship in the past. I think overall his third year at $600,000, the most expensive HC CFL contract, will more likely result in his being here in 2019.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Admittedly, I defended the decision to stay with MBT as the O scored more points with him at the helm. In hindsight, Popp mad a big move to bring in Franklin. Not giving him the opportunity to work his way out of a tough couple of games was dead wrong. I still believe it shows a disconnect between the HC and the GM, A’s does the decision not to get Carter involved early and often. I stand by my prediction that Trestman will not be back next year.
    I have to agree with your observations and conclusions. Addition by subtraction would see Trestman move on or be moved out.
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