Toronto Argonauts relieve Marc Trestman of head coaching duties

[BATKINSON001]

I don't think Manning was taking Carter's side necessarily, more so that he along with Popp didn't like how it was handled. It should also be noted that Trestman wasn't playing nice with MLSE's plan to reinvigorate the Argo Brand in Toronto, and it was being discussed up top, all the way to the MLSE Executives including Friisdahl from what I've heard.

any linkable sources? would love to read more on that.

[R.J]

any linkable sources? would love to read more on that.

I heard about Friisdahl from someone I know and trust within MLSE. Scianitti and Arash have tweeted about the not playing nice part - I think there was something written on 3downnation, but can't recall - Naylor and Lalji have also discussed it as well.

Naylor and Scianitti discussing the "misalignment".
https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/naylor-...gnment~1531250
Not the first time I've heard Trestman didn't want Manziel in Toronto either.

[R.J]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6udBD9Peq8

My favourite part in the presser is you can tell Popp felt Trestman kept Bethel Thompson in there too long lol.

[Argo]

My favourite part in the presser is you can tell Popp felt Trestman kept Bethel Thompson in there too long lol.

No snaps for Prukop in the last, meaningless, game of the season.

[jerrym]

I am not surprised by the firing but I am by how quickly it occurred.

[paulwoods13]

Another thing that really can't be overlooked this season is the fact that the Argos did not have even 1 contact day in training camp. That is crazy. How do you evaluate football players based on essentially a touch football training camp? This was by far the worst tacking team I have ever seen.

That and the surprising decision to play NO veterans (apart from Johnny Sears for as few plays) in either preseason game. I thought at the time it was smart to let rookies duke it out and save the vets from wear and tear, but in retrospect it seems like a dumb approach.

[gilthethrill]

What was Manning thinking wearing that damn red sweater to an Argo press conference?😐

[ArgoZ]

That and the surprising decision to play NO veterans (apart from Johnny Sears for as few plays) in either preseason game. I thought at the time it was smart to let rookies duke it out and save the vets from wear and tear, but in retrospect it seems like a dumb approach.

It's one of those decisions that if it works out, he looks great but when not, dumb. I guess you could say that about a lot of Trestman's choices this year. It was the direct cause for the slow start, a factor in the Ray injury and a show of overconfidence.

[gilthethrill]

It's one of those decisions that if it works out, he looks great but when not, dumb. I guess you could say that about a lot of Trestman's choices this year. It was the direct cause for the slow start, a factor in the Ray injury and a show of overconfidence.

Speaking of Rays injury, trailing 34-1 in the 3rd quarter, why was he still in there?

[Antwon]

One thing that stuck with me this year was how Trestman talks about the locker room, and family etc.
But then there's a report about him ripping into a MLSE employee who quit. To me this doesn't add up...a good team needs all the support staff around them. So this reinforces the talk of Trestman going against upper management.
I really hoped that the Popp/Trestman combo was here for years.
Side note this makes me respect the careers of coach Buono, Mathews, etc. Their longevity was in part to adapting to the team they had, not forcing their system on the players.

[Argo57]

Pretty staggering fall from grace in less than a year.
Trestman is a class act but I suspect Argo management couldn’t risk more of the same in 2019.
Should be an interesting off season.

[Bleeds Double Blue]

Pretty staggering fall from grace in less than a year.
Trestman is a class act but I suspect Argo management couldn’t risk more of the same in 2019.
Should be an interesting off season.

It is already.

[Argo57]

It is already.

Once the Grey Cup is over things will heat up.

[jerrym]

Coaching changes have speeded up significantly compared to fifty years ago as has the media and the two are not unrelated as the demand for information in a 24 hour cable network cycle in news and sports dictates more questioning of what is happening and why things failed, increasing the pressure on individuals and organizations to continually succeed. I still respect Trestman for his success in building a Grey Cup winning team last year and for operating under difficult personal and organizational circumstances with grace this year. However, a change had to be made.

[ArgoRavi]

The CFL has a supposed protocol in place but in typical CFL fashion it is not adhered to by anyone.The protocol was implemented by Mike Lysko but Popp/Wetenhall upstaged him in 2001 with the Don Mathews hiring during Grey Cup Week.It was the beginning of the end for Lysko and shows how ungovernable this league truly is. It will be interesting to see Edmonton's response this weekend since Len Rhodes was vocal about implementing this Competition Cap.I am curious to see limitations/punishments for not adhering to said such cap and if the Eskimos will abide to it.

That was 17 long years ago and the league has successfully instituted an embargo on any football operations announcements during the playoffs since that time.

To answer Paul's question, I am pretty sure that teams are not allowed to interview coaches from other teams until that coach's team is eliminated from the playoffs.

[ArgoRavi]

Speaking of Rays injury, trailing 34-1 in the 3rd quarter, why was he still in there?

Because Ray didn't play in the preseason, he needed to play at that point to find some rhythm on offence.

[AngeloV]

Side note this makes me respect the careers of coach Buono, Mathews, etc. Their longevity was in part to adapting to the team they had, not forcing their system on the players.

To me Buono is the most remarkable. Matthews was great, but I think a huge part of what kept him great was that he never stayed anywhere for more than a couple of years at a time. Buono had 2 great long runs with only 2 teams. That’s awesome.

[AngeloV]

Pretty staggering fall from grace in less than a year.
Trestman is a class act but I suspect Argo management couldn’t risk more of the same in 2019.
Should be an interesting off season.

Can’t wait for the annual February bitching session on here. 😂😂😂

[doubleblue]

Can’t wait for the annual February bitching session on here. 

Why wait until February. lol

Did anyone else notice the big push back on Facebook of Trestman's firing. I was a little surprised most people were not in favour, and especially the timing.

Speaking of Don Landry, from the "closed" post. I think he has been the best PA guy in my memory. Really liked him on the FAN. Don't know what happened there. He hasn't been replaced that's for sure.

[paulwoods13]

Since that other thread has been locked, I'll just say here that I did not intend to ignore the request for DMs, I thought Mike meant to DM him only with complaints, not suggestions. My apologies.