Official Coaching Search Thread

[AngeloV]

I'd say Lapolice or Steinauer.
Steinauer is being groomed for the HC in Hamilton. But with the management cap coming in I don't know how they could keep Jones and Steinauer.
Lapolice runs a diverse offence and seems to adapt to the players he has.

And no to Johnny Football! Anyone can see Pipkin is the better QB there.

Agree on all counts except for the part that anyone can see that Pipkin is the better of the 2 QB's. IMO, Manziel improved every time out, while Pipken regressed.

[Neely2005]

Top Candidates:

http://3downnation.com/2018/11/08/to...ng-candidates/

[ArgoGabe22]

Top Candidates:

http://3downnation.com/2018/11/08/to...ng-candidates/

Means nothing. Every fan could probably list many of these names. It’s pretty obvious assistsants and coordinators would be linked to any HC openings.

[Joe Barnes]

I say get O'Shea here as HC and bring LaPolice along, too. Have an entertaining offence and special teams. O'Shea is a local boy with connections to the Argos past (and a good coach, which would keep us happy), MLSE can market him, along with Franklin, Wilder, Woods and Ball (maybe Carter?) as the charismatic faces of the team. You'd have a solid coach and good looking, engaging guys with personality to sell to the Toronto market. I think that is what MLSE wants, isn't it?

[AngeloV]

I say get O'Shea here as HC and bring LaPolice along, too. Have an entertaining offence and special teams. O'Shea is a local boy with connections to the Argos past (and a good coach, which would keep us happy), MLSE can market him, along with Franklin, Wilder, Woods and Ball (maybe Carter?) as the charismatic faces of the team. You'd have a solid coach and good looking, engaging guys with personality to sell to the Toronto market. I think that is what MLSE wants, isn't it?

Only problem, if O'Shea was available, and I don't believe he is, LaPo would likely get the HC gig.

[Joe Barnes]

Only problem, if O'Shea was available, and I don't believe he is, LaPo would likely get the HC gig.

Yeah, I know...just wishful thinking.

[OV Argo]

Agree on all counts except for the part that anyone can see that Pipkin is the better of the 2 QB's. IMO, Manziel improved every time out, while Pipken regressed.

???

Pipken was way better for the Als IMO; take away the all-american hero status of Manzier and the usual suspects wanting to buy hype and believe he is some kinda budding CFL superstar and saviour, and it's blatantly obvious who was the better QB in the same Als offence this season.

[AngeloV]

???

Pipken was way better for the Als IMO; take away the all-american hero status of Manzier and the usual suspects wanting to buy hype and believe he is some kinda budding CFL superstar and saviour, and it's blatantly obvious who was the better QB in the same Als offence this season.

Manziel was much better than Pipken as time went on. He only threw 3 picks after that first game. Pipken became a turnover machine and got worse with more playing time. Manziel had a better TD to INT ratio, a better QB rating, and was a more dangerous runner than Pipken was. Your hatred for him has obviously clouded your thought process here.

[OV Argo]

Manziel was much better than Pipken as time went on. He only threw 3 picks after that first game. Pipken became a turnover machine and got worse with more playing time. Manziel had a better TD to INT ratio, a better QB rating, and was a more dangerous runner than Pipken was. Your hatred for him has obviously clouded your thought process here.

Whatever; and you think Tom Clements wasn't that good a CFL QB either (talk about blind homer prejudice - cause he played for Ottawa & the Ticats ??? - mind numbing) = to each his own.

Pipkin was clearly and easily better than Manzier; sorry bout that.

[paulwoods13]

Back on the topic of Coaching Search, Maas is returning to Edmonton so he's not coming here as some had (mildly) speculated earlier. Edm has also dismissed four assistant coaches, presumably in part because the new football ops cap will require fewer coaches. Maas is also musing about giving up the OC duties.

[AngeloV]

Pipkin was clearly and easily better than Manzier; sorry bout that.

You are wrong.

[Argo57]

Back on the topic of Coaching Search, Maas is returning to Edmonton so he's not coming here as some had (mildly) speculated earlier. Edm has also dismissed four assistant coaches, presumably in part because the new football ops cap will require fewer coaches. Maas is also musing about giving up the OC duties.

Maas wouldn’t have been on my radar anyway, don’t care for his sideline antics plus some of his in game decisions are questionable.
Steinauer, LaPolice and Chamblin (if interested) would be high on my list.

[AngeloV]

I say get O'Shea here as HC and bring LaPolice along, too. Have an entertaining offence and special teams. O'Shea is a local boy with connections to the Argos past (and a good coach, which would keep us happy), MLSE can market him, along with Franklin, Wilder, Woods and Ball (maybe Carter?) as the charismatic faces of the team. You'd have a solid coach and good looking, engaging guys with personality to sell to the Toronto market. I think that is what MLSE wants, isn't it?

Only problem, if O'Shea was available, and I don't believe he is, LaPo would likely get the HC gig.

For the record, O'Shea has a year remaining on the 3 year deal he signed prior to last season. LaPo signed an extension prior to this year as well, but not sure if it goes into next year.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...ters-1.3888868

https://www.barrietoday.com/national...-return-767617

[Joe Barnes]

For the record, O'Shea has a year remaining on the 3 year deal he signed prior to last season. LaPo signed an extension prior to this year as well, but not sure if it goes into next year.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...ters-1.3888868

https://www.barrietoday.com/national...-return-767617

Thanks for clarifying his status. It was a nice idea...The players on D responded to Chamblin last year. How about him as HC and Condell as OC?

[AngeloV]

Thanks for clarifying his status. It was a nice idea...The players on D responded to Chamblin last year. How about him as HC and Condell as OC?

I'd be good with that, but when he was HC in Saskatchewan, he did throw players under the bus at times. He may have learned from that experience, but I would prefer Steinauer to him, and Condell would likely be his choice as OC. It's definitely exciting to see what will happen in the weeks (hopefully not months) ahead.

[Antwon]

I'd be good with that, but when he was HC in Saskatchewan, he did throw players under the bus at times. He may have learned from that experience, but I would prefer Steinauer to him, and Condell would likely be his choice as OC. It's definitely exciting to see what will happen in the weeks (hopefully not months) ahead.

I remember that with Chamblin as well. Nothing was his fault. It was the players and GM who got them. So not good HC qualities. But did a great job last year with the D.

[Argo]

I remember that with Chamblin as well. Nothing was his fault. It was the players and GM who got them. So not good HC qualities. But did a great job last year with the D.

Chamblin was toxic during the latter part of his tenure as the Sask HC.
As past behaviour is a very good predictor, I wouldn't want to see him as the Argos' HC.
Though no complaints about him as the DC here, either in the past or the future.

[R.J]

Um, no thank you to Chamblin as HC. He did a good job with the D last year, and seemed to be a good buffer for Trestman and the players, but he's very different when he is the Head Coach. Continually blamed players in Sask, refused to give up control of his defence, named Greg Quick the DC just so he could continue on calling the plays etc, blamed his GM, got paranoid about his job, reacting negatively to the media. Admittedly, I've found that a lot of people change for the worse when they get promoted, so it is what it is. Chamblin won the 2013 with a team built to win that year, but the team and Chamblin collapsed pretty quickly.

My top 3 at this point would be: #1. Condell, #2. Thorpe, #3. Steinauer. Special mention to Benevides, as I'm still a fan, but he needs to regain form IMO. Best things about all 3 and even Bene ? Condell would be the OC lol.

[Wobbler]

What sort of offence did Condell run in Hamilton?

[Shatto]

In the best of all worlds, I would have preferred O'Shea with his local connections and his personality, which along with his adventurous coaching style might have helped sell tickets. However, with a year left on his contract, there is no way he would be released to sign with the Argos, without compensation ----perhaps a member off the Argo roster and quite possibility next year's first draft choice

Of the rest Steinauer appears to be a good choice based on his coaching record, previous connection to the team and his availability. It appears he wants to be a head coach and the wait in Hamilton may be too long for him.