Official Coaching Search Thread

**jerrym** · 11-20-2018, 01:40 AM

Frank Zicarelli also mentioned Chamblin and Steinauer. I'd prefer Steinauer. I like his style and his family lives in the GTA so there is more chance he would stay.

No team can even approach a competing team for permission to speak to a potential candidate until 48 hours after this Sunday’s Grey Cup. But there’s word around the league that Corey Chamblin’s name continues to be connected to the Argos if he does, in fact, want to return to three-down football.
Chamblin won a Grey Cup as head coach in Regina when the Roughriders played host to the big game in 2013 and beat the Henry Burris-led Ticats.

He subsequently joined the Argos then departed this past off-season for a job at the University of Arkansas. In theory, there’s nothing preventing the Boatmen from talking with Chamblin because he’s not employed by a CFL team. Family is big with Chamblin and the sense around the league is that the Argos’ situation has to be too enticing for Chamblin to even consider a return.
Outside of a few big plays by the Argos’ offence, it was Chamblin’s defence that helped fuel Toronto’s run to last year’s Grey Cup. Without Chamblin, the 2018 Argos were terrible in all three phases of the game. But the biggest drop-off was on defence and it’s why there are many in the league who believe the Argos are more inclined to secure a defensive-minded coach to replace the fired Marc Trestman. ...

The Ticats, following Sunday’s East-final loss in Ottawa, will clean out their lockers on Tuesday. A few people associated with the CFL believe something “fast’’ will happen. And perhaps a new voice will be heard if Jones does decide he no longer wants to coach in the CFL.
The logical candidate to fill the void would be their defensive coordinator Orlondo Steinauer, who has also been linked with the Argos and Lions. Steinauer got his first coaching job with the Argos when Jim Barker ran the organization. Barker hired Steinauer first and then Mike O’Shea, who moved on to Winnipeg as its head coach. Steinauer’s family lives in the GTA.

If there is a change in Hamilton, another name that could resurface is Tommy Condell, assuming the circumstances are right. Condell has been both receivers coach and offensive coordinator with the Argos. In Hamilton, it was Condell’s offence that allowed quarterback Zach Collaros to flourish.

https://o.canada.com/sports/football...0-397bf89755d0

**Argo57** · 11-20-2018, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by jerrym

Frank Zicarelli also mentioned Chamblin and Steinauer. I'd prefer Steinauer. I like his style and his family lives in the GTA so there is more chance he would stay.

https://o.canada.com/sports/football...0-397bf89755d0

Chamblin wouldn’t be an option, “the Argos situation has to be too enticing for Chamblin to even consider a return”.
No thanks, stay where you are.

**ArgoGabe22** · 11-20-2018, 09:09 AM

Article also mentions Himbaugh left to join the AAFL.

**AngeloV** · 11-20-2018, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22

Article also mentions Himbaugh left to join the AAFL.

That's a big loss. O-line was quite good, especially on pass protection this year.

**Argo57** · 11-20-2018, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

That's a big loss. O-line was quite good, especially on pass protection this year.

No surprise for a variety of reasons, uncertainty in Toronto plus he can coach in the United States probably made his decision rather easy.
Himebaugh also seems to move to other opportunities every 2-3 years or so.

**jerrym** · 11-20-2018, 09:14 PM

June Jones has talked to Orlando Steinauer about the rumours of his possibly leaving. Jones commented on the situation:

“Orlondo and I have had a conversation about his situation. Any time a guy has an opportunity, I’m happy for them. Anybody that wants to leave, I’m happy for them too to help them get to where they want to go, that’s just the way I’ve always been,” Jones said.

The B.C. Lions and Toronto Argos are looking for a new head coach.

“Everybody wants to come back, everybody believes we can make the changes internally from what we’re doing offensively and defensively and tweaking it and getting better that way as coaches just like the players have to do the same in their given areas of expertise,” Jones said.

http://3downnation.com/2018/11/20/ti...ndo-steinauer/

**Stevoman** · 11-20-2018, 10:44 PM

Jones has 2 years left on his deal and so I think the Argos get Steinauer and I'm totally good with that as he'd be my first choice with Condell in as OC. The DC will be a challenging role to fill as I doubt Chamblin comes back for anything less than HC.

**Will** · 11-21-2018, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Stevoman

Jones has 2 years left on his deal and so I think the Argos get Steinauer and I'm totally good with that as he'd be my first choice with Condell in as OC. The DC will be a challenging role to fill as I doubt Chamblin comes back for anything less than HC.

Presumably if Steinauer is the head coach then he'd have a lot of input on the D anyways so a person of Chamblin's reputation may not be necessary. Argos would need to have someone more senior as a OC.

**Wobbler** · 11-21-2018, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Will

Presumably if Steinauer is the head coach then he'd have a lot of input on the D anyways so a person of Chamblin's reputation may not be necessary. Argos would need to have someone more senior as a OC.

I think a first-time HC should concentrate on his own job - we'd be well served by having as many experienced people around him as possible.

**Will** · 11-21-2018, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Wobbler

I think a first-time HC should concentrate on his own job - we'd be well served by having as many experienced people around him as possible.

Certainly on offence, but the coach's salary cap is something that may inhibit that. Team's might be more inclined to focus on whichever side of the ball is not the specialty of the HC.

**gilthethrill** · 11-21-2018, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Will

Presumably if Steinauer is the head coach then he'd have a lot of input on the D anyways so a person of Chamblin's reputation may not be necessary. Argos would need to have someone more senior as a OC.

Condell, although still in his 30's I believe has been around the league long enough. He can, and has run a solid offence in the past.

**Argo** · 11-21-2018, 05:00 PM

Steinauer and Condell sound good.

**Argo57** · 11-21-2018, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Will

Presumably if Steinauer is the head coach then he'd have a lot of input on the D anyways so a person of Chamblin's reputation may not be necessary. Argos would need to have someone more senior as a OC.

Don’t agree with this at all.
Condell has more than enough experience as an OC and receivers coach and may actually be able to implement his own ideas without Trestman being involved, perhaps time for the entire staff to get younger and more progressive.

**Argo57** · 11-25-2018, 07:37 PM

The next 7-10 days should get interesting once the Grey Cup is over, looking forward to it.

**AngeloV** · 11-26-2018, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Will

Certainly on offence, but the coach's salary cap is something that may inhibit that. Team's might be more inclined to focus on whichever side of the ball is not the specialty of the HC.

Seeing as how this is year 1 of the new coaches cap, It would be nice if the CFL allowed a 1 time opportunity to buy out any coaches on staff and not have that count against the new cap. There really should be a transition period, similar to what the NHL did when they put in a salary cap for players. It would really suck if not only the Argos, but also the Lions lost out on a desirable coach, because he is stuck with assistants that aren't of his choosing.

**Will** · 11-26-2018, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Argo57

Don’t agree with this at all.
Condell has more than enough experience as an OC and receivers coach and may actually be able to implement his own ideas without Trestman being involved, perhaps time for the entire staff to get younger and more progressive.

I'm fine with Condell, just referring to him as Senior because he's spent some time in the league as an OC.

**Will** · 11-26-2018, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

Seeing as how this is year 1 of the new coaches cap, It would be nice if the CFL allowed a 1 time opportunity to buy out any coaches on staff and not have that count against the new cap. There really should be a transition period, similar to what the NHL did when they put in a salary cap for players. It would really suck if not only the Argos, but also the Lions lost out on a desirable coach, because he is stuck with assistants that aren't of his choosing.

Yes, because Argos cannot have Archer back as DC!

**paulwoods13** · 11-26-2018, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

Seeing as how this is year 1 of the new coaches cap, It would be nice if the CFL allowed a 1 time opportunity to buy out any coaches on staff and not have that count against the new cap. There really should be a transition period, similar to what the NHL did when they put in a salary cap for players. It would really suck if not only the Argos, but also the Lions lost out on a desirable coach, because he is stuck with assistants that aren't of his choosing.

I agree 100%. This new system should come into force in a way that everyone has an equal opportunity to prepare for and deal with. Other teams merely have to chop a few jobs to comply, but might make more radical changes if they knew it was taking effect a year from now, say. It would be an utter travesty to have to saddle the next coach with a bad staff because of multi-year deals that were signed with assistants before the new system was devised.

**AngeloV** · 11-26-2018, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Will

Yes, because Argos cannot have Archer back as DC!

From a selfish perspective yes, but I also think all teams really should not be bound to staffs in which contracts were signed prior to the rule change. This rule really needs to be grandfathered in. I doubt any assistants were on longer than 2 year deals, so every team would be on a level playing field next year (2020).