Argonauts Marketing in Toronto and the GTA

[1971GreyCup]

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“Despite on field woes, the @BCLions managed to draw close to 21,000 spectators for last nights contest.

That’s roughly 4,000 more than their previous game.

Small victories, I guess 🙌🏻”

[AngeloV]

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“Despite on field woes, the @BCLions managed to draw close to 21,000 spectators for last nights contest.

That’s roughly 4,000 more than their previous game.

Small victories, I guess 🙌🏻”

Judging by the interaction between the Riders and Rider fans behind the bench, captured by TSN cameras, I think it’s pretty obvious where the 4,000 increase came from.

[shayman]

Here's an interesting podcast episode from Planet Money looking at the downturn in sports attendance in most professional leagues, and what teams need to do to fill stadiums -

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/08/74951...-fill-stadiums

[shayman]

As someone who purchases tickets one game at a time and sits in different spots every time, you know what I'd like? A "Season Ticket Variety Pack", where I can sit for one game in a super premium sideline seat, and another game back in the 200 level, and another in the end zone, and another behind the visiting team bench, etc etc.

[Will]

As someone who purchases tickets one game at a time and sits in different spots every time, you know what I'd like? A "Season Ticket Variety Pack", where I can sit for one game in a super premium sideline seat, and another game back in the 200 level, and another in the end zone, and another behind the visiting team bench, etc etc.

An interesting idea. How would this work when the Argos finally sell the place out?

[Neely2005]

An interesting idea. How would this work when the Argos finally sell the place out?

Probably subject to availablity, like a Flex Package.

[shayman]

An interesting idea. How would this work when the Argos finally sell the place out?

Well let’s hope that becomes a problem, but maybe they could designate, say, 100 seats in different spots as Season Ticket Variety Pack seats and the 100 people who buy the Season Ticket Variety Pack rotate through them during the season.

It would be a neat way to figure out where you really want to sit when you buy a normal seasons ticket package. How do you feel about sitting on the east side vs. west side? Up high, down low? I dunno, let me try one game in each of 8 different spots.

[Foxhound]

Argonauts Marketing in Toronto and the GTAArgonauts Marketing in Toronto and the GTA

Huh?! What marketing?

[Neely2005]

Argonauts Marketing in Toronto and the GTAArgonauts Marketing in Toronto and the GTA

Huh?! What marketing?

If you read through this thread you'll see that there's plenty.

[1971GreyCup]

Early season starts no doubtably have hurt attendance with the hope that moving the Grey Cup up a week will improve weather conditions for the game. Given the snow storms hammering Alberta the last week of September, was it worth the cost at the gate to try and mitigate the weather in Calgary of a December 1st Grey Cup?

[paulwoods13]

Early season starts no doubtably have hurt attendance with the hope that moving the Grey Cup up a week will improve weather conditions for the game. Given the snow storms hammering Alberta the last week of September, was it worth the cost at the gate to try and mitigate the weather in Calgary of a December 1st Grey Cup?

Let's push the season start up so that the Grey Cup can be played on Labour Day.

[1971GreyCup]

Again you miss the point. I was suggesting that the cost (attendance) benefit (weather) was not well thought out. Moving the season earlier may have a big cost without a measurable benefit? Can I be any clearer??

[AngeloV]

Again you miss the point. I was suggesting that the cost (attendance) benefit (weather) was not well thought out. Moving the season earlier may have a big cost without a measurable benefit? Can I be any clearer??

I think you and Paul are in agreement here, it with some of the pushing to move the season up talked about here, May have misunderstood thinking you were in the group that does want to start earlier. I read your comment to be that we should NOT move up the start of the season and leave it as is. Am I wrong?

I’ll say it again, they league is not going to move the season up any more than it already has. If the Schooners come in, they can start a week later and actually finish a week earlier by going to only 1 bye week per team. That would be the best scenario IMO. Starting in May would be STUPID

[1971GreyCup]

Fall games > better attendance.
Earlier summer games < lesser attendance.

End of story.

Grey Cup weather will always be a crap shoot North of the Border. Move the season accordingly.

[AngeloV]

Fall games > better attendance.
Earlier summer games < lesser attendance.

End of story.

Grey Cup weather will always be a crap shoot North of the Border. Move the season accordingly.

So you, Paul and I are all in agreement. As I suspected, a misunderstanding.

[Topshelf]

Issue isnt sched.
Grey Cup ending week of US Thanksgiving is actually pretty good.
But league does have an issue with talent. Montreal's QB on saturday was from Butler. I didnt even know they had a team.
We need to start attracting better players. Especially at QB. No more D2 and 3 bs.
Challenge any casual fan to name the starting qbs from this past weekend, and see how many they come up with.
The league as a whole is in a tough spot.

[AngeloV]

Issue isnt sched.
Grey Cup ending week of US Thanksgiving is actually pretty good.
But league does have an issue with talent. Montreal's QB on saturday was from Butler. I didnt even know they had a team.
We need to start attracting better players. Especially at QB. No more D2 and 3 bs.
Challenge any casual fan to name the starting qbs from this past weekend, and see how many they come up with.
The league as a whole is in a tough spot.

So I guess Steve McNair's alma matter of Alcorn State means he wasn't a very good QB? Jerry Rice must have really sucked playing at Mississippi Valley State. Most casual fans won't know any players straight out of college. Once they play in the NFL, they may know them from TV or fantasy, but the college they played at makes absolutely no difference as far as recognition goes. I don't recall any buzz when Blake Sims from Alabama was in the Argos camp (no disrespect Rich). Tino Sunseri had some pretty good numbers coming out of Pitt. Guarantee nobody knew that. There is a long list of top school QB's not be as good as Div 1aa or 2 QB's in both leagues.

[argolio]

A few years ago we had a QB who started at Alabama in camp. He lasted less than a week, was signed by Saskatchewan, and then was cut about a month later. Playing at a bigger program helps, but it doesn't guarantee a pro career.

For the record, the last December Grey Cup was in 1972.

[gilthethrill]

A few years ago we had a QB who started at Alabama in camp. He lasted less than a week, was signed by Saskatchewan, and then was cut about a month later. Playing at a bigger program helps, but it doesn't guarantee a pro career.

For the record, the last December Grey Cup was in 1972.

Tell that to Jay Barker!!!!

[argolio]

Tell that to Jay Barker!!!!

I actually thought he'd better than he was.