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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely2005 View Post
    Especially the part where he gives full credit for the 2017 Grey Cup to Chamblin!

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    I'm so happy to have Argos football back. I love this team! I'm 41 and have been following this team closely since I was 7 years old. No other sports team has captured my heart quite like the Argos and I love the clean slate of a new season. I'm most looking forward to seeing a more aggressive team this year across the board!

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    Although some of his narrative is faulty this is actually a pretty fair assessment by Zicarelli, lots of question marks heading into 2019.
    I’m cautiously optimistic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely2005 View Post
    As usual, Frank shows that if he isn't covering the team for a specific assignment, he pays no attention. First paragraph:

    The first, and arguably most important, thing one must know about the Toronto Argonauts heading into training camp involves the quarterback position and how no one has been anointed as the starter.
    Don't know how many times I have heard coach Chamblin say that Franklin is the starter.

    And another famous Frank line:

    In three-down football, teams are judged by their play at quarterback. And with Ray officially out of the picture after missing most of last season, the Argos clearly need to identify a starting QB and establish a pecking order based on performance and not contractual obligations.
    I guess he thinks people reading articles on a CFL team need to be reminded in every article he writes that Canadian football only has 3 downs.

    He must work cheap.
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    Yes AV....Frank's line about 3 down football has gotten old....so so old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    As usual, Frank shows that if he isn't covering the team for a specific assignment, he pays no attention. First paragraph:



    Don't know how many times I have heard coach Chamblin say that Franklin is the starter.

    And another famous Frank line:



    I guess he thinks people reading articles on a CFL team need to be reminded in every article he writes that Canadian football only has 3 downs.

    He must work cheap.

    Well AV, at least you didn't call him "clueless" ;o)

    No wonder I've said (repeatedly ? - hell, not me ;o)) that I'd much rather hear and have respect for, CFL commentary on fan sites like this, vs. the professional "journalists" who get paid to cover the CFL

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    Well AV, at least you didn't call him "clueless" ;o)

    No wonder I've said (repeatedly ? - hell, not me ;o)) that I'd much rather hear and have respect for, CFL commentary on fan sites like this, vs. the professional "journalists" who get paid to cover the CFL
    I have respect for a lot of journalists that cover football. Frank just isn’t one of them.
    It's us vs the rest of the country

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    https://torontosun.com/sports/footba...os-starting-qb

    Franklin showing leadership off the field in giving up #2 to Chris Rainey. It sounds like this is Franklin's opportunity to be the legitimate number one and I think he will do very well with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevoman View Post
    https://torontosun.com/sports/footba...os-starting-qb

    Franklin showing leadership off the field in giving up #2 to Chris Rainey. It sounds like this is Franklin's opportunity to be the legitimate number one and I think he will do very well with it.
    I agree. I’ll say it again, he played 2 very good games against Edmonton, then 2 rough games against Winnipeg. I think the entire team was badly overmatched against the Bombers and to scapegoat him was just plain BS.
    It's us vs the rest of the country

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    Not too much to report from today's camp. Most of the time was spent on positional drills. Here are some personal observations:
    Walker, Green, Edwards and Wilder spent a fair amount of time, working as a group, with the QB's. It is obvious they are going to be the centre piece of the offense. To be expected really. They all looked sharp.

    .Awe worked quite a bit at MLB. He certainly moves smoothly and quickly.

    .Striker worked with the LB's. It looked as if he lined up at MLB during the drills. He moved very well in the downfield punt coverage drills.

    .Freddie Bishop was not on the field. Not really expected, since he only just signed.

    .Onyeka showed no sign of last year's injury. He was very mobile and was moving well.

    .Antigha looked quick and smooth. For a big man he moves with the speed and mobility of a DB

    The above are just a few observations (for what they are worth). With so many players on the field it is easy to miss things, however. Overall it looked like a good start to camp. I have commitments over the next few days, so will not be at camp. Look forward to any comments from others, who will be able to be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shatto View Post
    Not too much to report from today's camp. Most of the time was spent on positional drills. Here are some personal observations:
    Walker, Green, Edwards and Wilder spent a fair amount of time, working as a group, with the QB's. It is obvious they are going to be the centre piece of the offense. To be expected really. They all looked sharp.

    .Awe worked quite a bit at MLB. He certainly moves smoothly and quickly.

    .Striker worked with the LB's. It looked as if he lined up at MLB during the drills. He moved very well in the downfield punt coverage drills.

    .Freddie Bishop was not on the field. Not really expected, since he only just signed.

    .Onyeka showed no sign of last year's injury. He was very mobile and was moving well.

    .Antigha looked quick and smooth. For a big man he moves with the speed and mobility of a DB

    The above are just a few observations (for what they are worth). With so many players on the field it is easy to miss things, however. Overall it looked like a good start to camp. I have commitments over the next few days, so will not be at camp. Look forward to any comments from others, who will be able to be there.
    These reports are much appreciated! Looking forward to reading more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I have respect for a lot of journalists that cover football. Frank just isn’t one of them.
    What about quasi-journalists who covered minor league hockey who may or may not have had an article appear in a Toronto newspaper? haha

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    Argo fans tend to be old and cranky. Marketing challenge 101.

    Like it or not, it is at least 'something.'

    I don't discourage CFL news coming from Toronto. Trust me, it can change, and it may when Frank Z. moves along.

    Result = less news and opinion. That is bad for all of us. I have heard these kinds of conversations about coverage, and they occur often in this day and age.

    Argo coverage is hanging on by a thread, and I expect that it will be bloggers that will be picking up any slack once the beat reporters move on to more popular events.

    Appreciate Shatto's report from TC, and I come here to read that kind of input as an out of town fan.

    It was no surprise to me that Frank Z was no fan of Trestman's. I sat beside him in the Press Box in Ottawa that night that Marc was let go. He was hard on him and it sounded to me like the dysfunction in Toronto was colossal. It was a giant cluster-f&&k.

    I give credit to Trestman for an amazing and rewarding Grey Cup year. Trestman is an inspiration to many athletes, but he lost the room because of his co-ordinators and an onslaught of misfortune. But it's on him. He lost the room, and he is not getting any younger.

    Chamblin was the ideal replacement, and these guys will play with urgency, or they won't be around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCargosfan View Post
    What about quasi-journalists who covered minor league hockey who may or may not have had an article appear in a Toronto newspaper? haha
    I respect you bro. LOL!!
    It's us vs the rest of the country

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    We may have a problem with the way that Frank Ziccarelli covers the team, but as Lori pointed out to me yesterday he seems to be the only one of a few who is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shatto View Post
    Not too much to report from today's camp. Most of the time was spent on positional drills. Here are some personal observations:
    Walker, Green, Edwards and Wilder spent a fair amount of time, working as a group, with the QB's. It is obvious they are going to be the centre piece of the offense. To be expected really. They all looked sharp.

    .Awe worked quite a bit at MLB. He certainly moves smoothly and quickly.

    .Striker worked with the LB's. It looked as if he lined up at MLB during the drills. He moved very well in the downfield punt coverage drills.

    .Freddie Bishop was not on the field. Not really expected, since he only just signed.

    .Onyeka showed no sign of last year's injury. He was very mobile and was moving well.

    .Antigha looked quick and smooth. For a big man he moves with the speed and mobility of a DB

    The above are just a few observations (for what they are worth). With so many players on the field it is easy to miss things, however. Overall it looked like a good start to camp. I have commitments over the next few days, so will not be at camp. Look forward to any comments from others, who will be able to be there.
    There was someone jogging on the sidelines. I don't know if that was Bishop, but FWIW the Argos haven't officially announced the signing yet.
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