Popp/Chamblin Staying or Going?

[Argocister]

Not sure it is so easy to get rid of GMs and coaches with the management salary cap ..... But I believe Popps contract is up this year and we won't have Trestmans contract on the books so it may give us more wiggle room this year.
A new president would be ideal .....are they included in the salary cap ?
Move Chamblin to DC .... Although the players seem to be supporting him in their interviews .

[Bleeds Double Blue]

Move Chamblin to DC .... Although the players seem to be supporting him in their interviews .

They are supporting him on the field as well. They played their hearts out in Moncton and deserved better.

[KCargosfan]

No thanks. Barker is great at finding talent, but cannot be handed the powers of a GM. The Drew Willy trade is proof enough!

And you want whom?

[paulwoods13]

If a new GM is being sought (and I think there's a decent chance of that after this season), I would look first to young Canadian guys with experience, like Allemang and/or Burke in Hamilton. Chris Rossetti would likely be great but I doubt he's coming back from the NFL. If we were to hire a young guy like one of the Hamilton guys, I'd want him to hire a more senior person with proven contracts, such as Barker or Tillman, as an advisor/personnel recruiter. And we'd need someone with SMS management experience.

I really doubt we are getting a new CEO after this year. I can't see MLSE believing that the Argos, in their current state as a money-losing entity, are worth spending big bucks on a president. They will absolutely spend a ton of money when there's likely to be a strong return on the investment, but will proceed cautiously otherwise. Having one CEO shared between the two "junior" teams in the MLSE structure, who also happen to share a facility, would seem to make sense at this point from a corporate standpoint. And Manning has barely been in the job a year and a half, without having had time to establish whether his ideas for rebuilding the brand are gonna work. There have been some promising signs and some disheartening signs, but it has been clear for a while that any return to sustained success at the gate is a multi-year play, and I don't see why MLSE won't give him at least a few years.

[paulwoods13]

BTW, does anyone know what Damon Allen has been doing on the Argo bench the last two weeks? He's around BMO a lot, but last week he was on the Argo sideline wearing the same shirt as the coaches, and he was there again yesterday. Some type of unpaid advisor?

[Jon Gonzo]

BTW, does anyone know what Damon Allen has been doing on the Argo bench the last two weeks? He's around BMO a lot, but last week he was on the Argo sideline wearing the same shirt as the coaches, and he was there again yesterday. Some type of unpaid advisor?

.....And Bear Woods with the clip board and play cards too.

[Neely2005]

BTW, does anyone know what Damon Allen has been doing on the Argo bench the last two weeks? He's around BMO a lot, but last week he was on the Argo sideline wearing the same shirt as the coaches, and he was there again yesterday. Some type of unpaid advisor?

Hopefully learning the playbook to replace MBT.
:-)

[paulwoods13]

.....And Bear Woods with the clip board and play cards too.

At least his pay is being accounted for.

[timlb01]

BTW, does anyone know what Damon Allen has been doing on the Argo bench the last two weeks? He's around BMO a lot, but last week he was on the Argo sideline wearing the same shirt as the coaches, and he was there again yesterday. Some type of unpaid advisor?

I have seen him at almost every game this year and last. I don’t think it is new maybe more visible on the sidelines. I think he did a promotion thing for the game in Moncton.

[1971GreyCup]

We ran into Damon Allen at St. Mary’s University giving a QB camp for youngsters. He represented the CFL Alumni at the Touchdown Atlantic golf tournament and we saw him on the sidelines. I didn’t ask, but I suspect the CFL is paying his way.

[argonaut11xx]

Stability is the key right now. Let Popp and Chamblin work through this. The Argo's suck this year, just ride it out.

MBT is never winning a Grey Cup, we all know that.

Build, patience.

That said for whatever reason defensive coaches tend to have a longer learning curve, and less early success than offensive coaches turn HC. (see O'Shea, Stubler, Chamblin, Claybrooks)

Don Matthews being the exception, but he was the GREATEST coach in the history of the CFL

[Argo57]

Stability is the key right now. Let Popp and Chamblin work through this. The Argo's suck this year, just ride it out.

MBT is never winning a Grey Cup, we all know that.

Build, patience.

That said for whatever reason defensive coaches tend to have a longer learning curve, and less early success than offensive coaches turn HC. (see O'Shea, Stubler, Chamblin, Claybrooks)

Don Matthews being the exception, but he was the GREATEST coach in the history of the CFL

Popp and Chamblin have the rest of the season to work through it.

[argonaut11xx]

Popp and Chamblin have the rest of the season to work through it.

I agree, and i'm not happy with the results.

That said, Popp has forgotten more than Bill Manning will ever know about football, and Chamblin has the D improving, and the team being more competitive with a bunch of "Ham'en'eggers" playing QB.

Even Don Matthews would have a sub .500 season with these folks

[KCargosfan]

I agree, and i'm not happy with the results.

That said, Popp has forgotten more than Bill Manning will ever know about football, and Chamblin has the D improving, and the team being more competitive with a bunch of "Ham'en'eggers" playing QB.

Even Don Matthews would have a sub .500 season with these folks

Which means Popp has done a crappy job. Popp did a bad job his last few years in Montreal and he's done a horrific job his last two years here. Time for a change.

[mchesher03]

I can't say I support keeping either beyond the season. WHile the players are playing for Chamblin, his in-game decisions are so mind baffling I can't see them improving.

I will be the first to admit I'd complain about Milonovich not going for gimmie 3rd and shorts but he would not be making the oddball challenges, etc. that Chamblin is doing.

[Jon Gonzo]

I am comfortable with letting them stay-on for the season as long as they're not attempting hail-mary, desperate trades to save their own backsides.

GM's don't get renewed with 4 wins over two seasons, and head scratching personnel decisions

The scary part, is in the meantime, who is planning the road ahead? It is the lack of vision that keeps a team in the dullards for years and years to come.

I doubt this franchise could withstand that.

We need a strong figure, a Ralph Sazio-type, to come in here and grab the goose by the neck.

[paulwoods13]

When you say a Sazio "type," I presume you mean a guy with considerable experience running a CFL org? Because surely you wouldn't mean a guy who believes the only marketing needed is a winning team.

[Will]

When you say a Sazio "type," I presume you mean a guy with considerable experience running a CFL org? Because surely you wouldn't mean a guy who believes the only marketing needed is a winning team.

You raise a good point! Both on-field and off-field are issues in 2019 whereas the off-field stuff might not have been viewed as an issue in 1981.

[Jon Gonzo]

When you say a Sazio "type," I presume you mean a guy with considerable experience running a CFL org? Because surely you wouldn't mean a guy who believes the only marketing needed is a winning team.

Yes, and back in those days they'd have 50,000 in the stands and at the time, he may have been correct

[1971GreyCup]

Hamilton did well this offseason with Argos talent - Coombs, Van Zehl and Wynn.

“Dylan Wynn (@cdylanwynn) has been named a @CFL Top Performer of the Month for August.”

️ > bit.ly/2U9UyMN

Anyone knew who came Argos way from the Ticats this offseason?