Popp/Chamblin Staying or Going?

**Ron** · 09-05-2019, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by 1971GreyCup

Is there a successful CFL quarterback on the team?

That's too simplistic. How about we sign Mike Reilly and go 1-9 with him?

**Argo57** · 09-05-2019, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Neely2005

How much weaker could the team be?

Do you really want to find out?

**Neely2005** · 09-06-2019, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Argo57

Do you really want to find out?

We have 1 win. It can't get much worse.

**RB957** · 09-06-2019, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Neely2005

We have 1 win. It can't get much worse.

You are right... but Bo Levi Mitchell was not the answer to our situation, not with the O-line that we have. He probably would have gotten injured even sooner than he did... and what is the point of having a $700k quarterback who is injured and can't play.

**Al&Kat** · 09-07-2019, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by RB957

You are right... but Bo Levi Mitchell was not the answer to our situation, not with the O-line that we have. He probably would have gotten injured even sooner than he did... and what is the point of having a $700k quarterback who is injured and can't play.

Highly paid QB that is always injured? been there, done that.
See Argos 2015 when fortunately a young Trevor Harris saved our season.
See Argos 2018 when nobody saved our season (however 4 wins looks good right now...)

**Argofan_1000** · 09-10-2019, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Al&Kat

Highly paid QB that is always injured? been there, done that.
See Argos 2015 when fortunately a young Trevor Harris saved our season.
See Argos 2018 when nobody saved our season (however 4 wins looks good right now...)

so how do we prepare for next year

**Ron** · 09-10-2019, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Argofan_1000

so how do we prepare for next year

Stay the course.

**Neely2005** · 09-11-2019, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ron

Stay the course.

We've won 2 games this season. Staying the course doesn't seem like the best idea.

**ArgoZ** · 09-21-2019, 12:14 PM

Every week, the blunders of our head coach show up. Imagine if this were a good team and his coaching decisions cost us close games? You have to know your team, it’s strengths, the game situation and make the proper decision. Why keep the Coach around if he’s costing them points and chances of winning? The season is done, financial issues, no suitable replacements, are excuses I’ve heard. Those are not acceptable reasons to keep someone who is incapable of doing what is asked, his job. He’s actually a very likeable guy, seems great in interviews and practice, but when the lights are on, he plainly sucks. Nice Oakley’s with authentic strap he’s was wearing last night. I have those.

**jerrym** · 09-21-2019, 05:44 PM

Chamblin's bizarre calls, such as not going for the TD on third and two on the two yard line and then going for it on third and five on your 53 just before the half yesterday thereby giving Calgary a free FG, and numerous highly likely-to-lose challenges alone should get him fired at the end of the season. It almost seems like his brain freezes in these situations.

**Argo57** · 09-21-2019, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by jerrym

Chamblin's bizarre calls, such as not going for the TD on third and two on the two yard line and then going for it on third and five on your 53 just before the half yesterday thereby giving Calgary a free FG, and numerous highly likely-to-lose challenges alone should get him fired at the end of the season. It almost seems like his brain freezes in these situations.

Very good DC, brutal HC.

**Shatto** · 09-21-2019, 07:19 PM

In all likelihood both will be replaced for next season But, more importantly, before that occurs, Manning must be replaced with a CFL knowledgeably and hopefully media wise president. The president does not make football decisions but he chooses the people who do!

**argotom** · 09-21-2019, 07:24 PM

Must clean house, GM, HC and to most of the players to include the QB lousy stable.
Like most have been saying a real team President is a must.

**Argo57** · 09-21-2019, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by argotom

Must clean house, GM, HC and to most of the players to include the QB lousy stable.
Like most have been saying a real team President is a must.

Popp has failed in addressing major roster deficiencies that go back a couple of years (O-Line and Defensive Secondary) just to name a couple and Chamblin and his staff have done a pretty poor coaching job as well so IMO they both should go.
Selling the status quo to an already restless fan base with declining attendance numbers is like playing Russian roulette with your future.
When apathy starts to set in with your core fan base you are in serious shit.

**doubleblue** · 09-21-2019, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by argotom

Must clean house, GM, HC and to most of the players to include the QB lousy stable.
Like most have been saying a real team President is a must.

Checking around the League it looks like Calgary and Winnipeg have President's that actually played football. Not sure about Scott Mitchell in Hamilton. But otherwise teams seem to have a President like Manning not ex football players.
A General Manager plus Head of Football Operations seems to be the most popular position. But the thing is getting the right guy.
The Calgary blue print would seem to be the one to copy, but you have to find another John Hufnagel to make it work. I noticed Calgary has more scouts listed (5) than other teams, and then Huff has great contacts in the NFL from his many years there. Calgary just always seems to have a replacement ready for every player they lose. It obviously isn't by accident. Jim Popp probably feels he has good NFL contacts, but there are some misses in the Talent he brings in.
IMO I believe it is a God given Talent, just like a talented star player, being able to project what ones sees in a player and how he will perform in the CFL. The people that seem to have that Talent like Hufnagel, Wally Buono, Don Mathews etc. they win where ever they go. I think there was more than a few snickers when Winnipeg hired Wade Miller and Kyle Walters in Winnipeg but they have rebuilt a team that was weak in Canadian talent and very average imports. You find one of these guys and you are in business. The trick is finding them.

**Will** · 09-22-2019, 09:56 AM

Even if you could argue that Chamblin doesn't have the personnel (because of Popp), I don't see how you can excuse the head-scratching in-game decisions.

**Antwon** · 09-23-2019, 09:26 AM

I’m less concerned about adding a new president with a football background. I think MLSE will keep Manning in place, but it’s imperative they hire a new GM and a VP of football Operations. Then they need to hire a new HC. I see no way Popp is resigned for next year. Maybe he’ll get the phone call right after the last game.

**AngeloV** · 09-23-2019, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by doubleblue

Checking around the League it looks like Calgary and Winnipeg have President's that actually played football. Not sure about Scott Mitchell in Hamilton. But otherwise teams seem to have a President like Manning not ex football players.
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I knew Scott Mitchell was a former UofT QB turned receiver, but in looking up his bio with the Ti-Cats, he was also at Bucknell in the NCAA (same school Kevin Eiben attended), so yes, he too has a football background.

**1971GreyCup** · 09-23-2019, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

I knew Scott Mitchell was a former UofT QB turned receiver, but in looking up his bio with the Ti-Cats, he was also at Bucknell in the NCAA (same school Kevin Eiben attended), so yes, he too has a football background.

You can add to the fact that Scott Mitchell is the son of Douglas Mitchell who was a CFL player, executive and commissioner too.