Popp/Chamblin Staying or Going?

[SkalbaniasGhost]

Is it time for a reset at the GM/HC positions? I need hope for next year.

[Will]

Yes and yes.

I don't buy the notion that Popp was overrated in Montreal because he had Calvillo. He was still able to find talent to supplement AC, but he hasn't had the same results in Toronto. Hindsight is 20/20 but the 2018-2019 offseason was very poor in terms of recruitment and his handling of the OL was poor.

Chamblin was great as a DC in 2017, but I think he's in over his head as a HC. Perhaps it is the dual role of HC/DC that is an issue, but his game-time and lineup decisions have been head scratchers.

I do not, however, trust Bill Manning with making a football hire.

[ArgoZ]

I think we will see a change at some point. The coaching cap complicates things. I can see Popp replacing Chamblin and after that Popp fired himself. Unless the Argos catch fire with the pressure off under Popp, and that is enough to save his job for another go at GM.

[paulwoods13]

Both guys will survive until the end of the year, but both are likely gone after the season ends IMO.

[Neely2005]

Yes and yes.

I don't buy the notion that Popp was overrated in Montreal because he had Calvillo. He was still able to find talent to supplement AC, but he hasn't had the same results in Toronto. Hindsight is 20/20 but the 2018-2019 offseason was very poor in terms of recruitment and his handling of the OL was poor.

Chamblin was great as a DC in 2017, but I think he's in over his head as a HC. Perhaps it is the dual role of HC/DC that is an issue, but his game-time and lineup decisions have been head scratchers.

I do not, however, trust Bill Manning with making a football hire.

Agree with all of this. First thing we need is an Argonauts only President who knows the CFL and the CFL talent pipeline.

[dmont]

Popp absolutely has to go. I dont know why he was better in Montreal, but hes garbage now. Won the Cup in 2017 with Jim Barker and Spencer Zimmerman's team. After that, all he could do was bring in high-priced free agents. He must have a very lousy network of scouts and contacts because he is really bad at uncovering those diamonds in the rough. Its telling that, even after a four win season, the guy couldn't find any rookies or past NFL cuts to come in and challenge for a position.

Bring back Jim Barker! That guy was great in the drafts and always brought in some studs to camp that no one had ever heard of and watched them explode. Great at finding and developing QB talent (collaros, Harris, fajardo).

[gilthethrill]

First off season move for this team is to hire a full time President. No ifs or buts. Plenty of young experienced Canadian front office guys that are ready to assume a GM role in this league. Zimmerman, Burke...perhaps even Vince Magri are 3 that come to mind. Still pissed to see our 1st round pick on the "6 game injured list"...cough cough.

[Argo57]

Major changes have to be made in the off season.
A successful program starts at the top to which the Argos need to hire a qualified President to set the tone.
Popp, Chamblin and the entire football ops department should be scrutinized in detail and ultimately replaced.
The coaching has been atrocious and Popp has done a poor job at recruiting talent and addressing roster deficiencies.
Personally I’d like to see the Argos hire a younger GM with a fresh view of player evaluation and how to build a roster.
People like Ted Goveia (Winnipeg), Paul Jones (Edmonton) or Shawn Burke, Spencer Zimmerman (Hamilton) should be considered.

[Neely2005]

Major changes have to be made in the off season.
A successful program starts at the top to which the Argos need to hire a qualified President to set the tone.
Popp, Chamblin and the entire football ops department should be scrutinized in detail and ultimately replaced.
The coaching has been atrocious and Popp has done a poor job at recruiting talent and addressing roster deficiencies.
Personally I’d like to see the Argos hire a younger GM with a fresh view of player evaluation and how to build a roster.
People like Ted Goveia (Winnipeg), Paul Jones (Edmonton) or Shawn Burke, Spencer Zimmerman (Hamilton) should be considered.

Agreed that we should be looking for a young, forward thinking candidate.

[Argo57]

Agreed that we should be looking for a young, forward thinking candidate.

For sure, no more recycled talent.
Personally I’m getting tired of the same old same old.
This year’s performance issues and roster deficiencies mirror last year’s debacle of a season (only worse).
Championships can’t be won every season but it isn’t too much to expect an entertaining and competitive on field product.

[AngeloV]

I am keeping both guys for 2 reasons.
1, I don't believe that changing management and coaches as often as the Argos do is beneficial in any way.
2, I don't trust Bill Manning to bring in the right people to actually manage the team.

My hopes would be for the Argos to make Popp the president and have him hire a new GM.

[Blue90]

I am keeping both guys for 2 reasons.
1, I don't believe that changing management and coaches as often as the Argos do is beneficial in any way.
2, I don't trust Bill Manning to bring in the right people to actually manage the team.

My hopes would be for the Argos to make Popp the president and have him hire a new GM.

Really? Chamblin for anothe year? No thank you.

["Issues"Mcgee]

I refuse to give up until it is mathematically impossible. For all we know, there is a chance we will be praising Popp and Chamblin in late November.

[Ron]

Really? Chamblin for anothe year? No thank you.

Bombers fans said that a lot about O'Shea a few years back. Now they don't want him to leave.

[ArgoZ]

I refuse to give up until it is mathematically impossible. For all we know, there is a chance we will be praising Popp and Chamblin in late November.

The Argos would have to go at minimum 5-4 and Montreal subsequently 0-9, or a maximum 9-0 and hope Montreal goes 4-5. Either scenario or something in between is not realistic for a 1-8 team. After a loss next week in Hamilton, it gets even more mathematically stupid. Season is done.

[KCargosfan]

I'd bring back Jim Barker as GM. What Popp has done the last 2 seasons is enough to be fired.

[Antwon]

I'd bring back Jim Barker as GM. What Popp has done the last 2 seasons is enough to be fired.

No thanks. Barker is great at finding talent, but cannot be handed the powers of a GM. The Drew Willy trade is proof enough!

[AngeloV]

Really? Chamblin for anothe year? No thank you.

Yes, because I’m not a knee jerk reaction kind of a guy. There is no denying the team has improved a ton since the beginning of the season, and nothing in pro sports is worse than changing coaches and management every year. I have complained a lot about his in game decisions, but still not ready to give up on him.

[argotom]

For me both have to go.
Start clean and I would not be against hiring back, I know I know, Eric Tilman as a GM before he is taken by the Schooners group.

[Neely2005]

For sure, no more recycled talent.
Personally I’m getting tired of the same old same old.
This year’s performance issues and roster deficiencies mirror last year’s debacle of a season (only worse).
Championships can’t be won every season but it isn’t too much to expect an entertaining and competitive on field product.

We haven't had back to back winning regular seasons in over a decade. In a 9 (sometimes 8) team league playing in the weaker Division that's just pathetic.