Micheal O'Connor, and our QB pool

**argonaut11xx** · 05-26-2019, 08:18 PM

Just curious from the folks who have had the pleasure of attending training camp this year, how does O'Connor look?

We all know this is Franklin's team to start, and I think he will do very well.

My hope is Franklin #1, Bridge #2, O'Connor #3

I think O'Connor is behind Bridge at this point, but has far more upside.

MBT, too old to waste any time/investment on IMO.

What have the QB's looked like in camp so far?

**Argo57** · 05-26-2019, 09:00 PM

MBT gained a lot of CFL experience last season and is a veteran QB who can capably manage a game which IMO makes him a much better option as a backup QB than Bridge.

**AngeloV** · 05-26-2019, 09:07 PM

I was there for the last 2 hours of practice Saturday. O’Connor took no scrimmage reps. As I reported on another thread in the CFL room, MBT had a great practice and didn’t miss one throw. Bridge and Prukop were both pretty bad with Bridge just having brutal accuracy and Prukop seemed confused a lot and held on to the ball for way too much time. It’s pretty obvious to me the battle is on for #2 and O’Connor will be having a development year. At this point, MBT is head and shoulders the top guy for #2, but it is early. If Bridge doesn’t play really well in the pre season, I think he will be cut.

**OV Argo** · 05-26-2019, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Argo57

MBT gained a lot of CFL experience last season and is a veteran QB who can capably manage a game which IMO makes him a much better option as a backup QB than Bridge.

Guess it depends on what you expect out of your back-up QB; a mediocre game manager - shoulda signed that stiff Kevin Glenn - lots of experience.

**paulwoods13** · 05-27-2019, 01:50 AM

The backup qb needs to be able to step in and help the team win some games if the starter is injured. If guys are equal, go with the younger player. If not equal, go with the better player. Just common sense. If MBT is clearly better than the others vying for No. 2, he should get the job. Open competition and all.

**Argo57** · 05-27-2019, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by OV Argo

Guess it depends on what you expect out of your back-up QB; a mediocre game manager - shoulda signed that stiff Kevin Glenn - lots of experience.

Still a much better option than Bridge.

**argonaut11xx** · 05-27-2019, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

I was there for the last 2 hours of practice Saturday. O’Connor took no scrimmage reps. As I reported on another thread in the CFL room, MBT had a great practice and didn’t miss one throw. Bridge and Prukop were both pretty bad with Bridge just having brutal accuracy and Prukop seemed confused a lot and held on to the ball for way too much time. It’s pretty obvious to me the battle is on for #2 and O’Connor will be having a development year. At this point, MBT is head and shoulders the top guy for #2, but it is early. If Bridge doesn’t play really well in the pre season, I think he will be cut.

Ang, you called Bridge a few years back, I as hoping he would develop but sounds like he is same old same old. Too Bad

MBT, sounds like we are investing in senior citizen as a backup, who is NEVER going to win us any game of importance. Do you think Prokup may be an option for #2?

I'm most interested in O'Connor, does he look as if he just needs experience? or is he out of sorts in a pro style offence? He sure was impressive last year in college

**AngeloV** · 05-27-2019, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by argonaut11xx

Ang, you called Bridge a few years back, I as hoping he would develop but sounds like he is same old same old. Too Bad

MBT, sounds like we are investing in senior citizen as a backup, who is NEVER going to win us any game of importance. Do you think Prokup may be an option for #2?

I'm most interested in O'Connor, does he look as if he just needs experience? or is he out of sorts in a pro style offence? He sure was impressive last year in college

I think it’s unrealistic to expect a 50% passer in college to become an accurate passer in the pros. What Bridge has is big play ability. But how long can you wait for consistency? As I said, he really needs to look good in pre season or he will be released.

**bannedforlife** · 05-27-2019, 01:52 PM

Will Popp be the Branch Rickey of the CFL, and is O'Connor the man? I think Popp was willing to do it the second time around in Montreal for Kyle Quinlan but Quinlan wouldn't believe it. There are six Canadian QBs in camps, someone has got to stick around.

**Wobbler** · 05-27-2019, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

What Bridge has is but play ability.

I'm not going to ask whether you meant "big" or "butt" in that sentence. It's more fun not knowing.

**AngeloV** · 05-27-2019, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Wobbler

I'm not going to ask whether you meant "big" or "butt" in that sentence. It's more fun not knowing.

LOL...Iphone sucks on forums. Yes..BIG play.

**AngeloV** · 05-27-2019, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by bannedforlife

Will Popp be the Branch Rickey of the CFL, and is O'Connor the man? I think Popp was willing to do it the second time around in Montreal for Kyle Quinlan but Quinlan wouldn't believe it. There are six Canadian QBs in camps, someone has got to stick around.

I think O'Connor will stick, and get some pre-season action, but will likely be developed for a year before being a regular on the roster.

**bannedforlife** · 05-27-2019, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

I think O'Connor will stick, and get some pre-season action, but will likely be developed for a year before being a regular on the roster.

I think so too. I think Hugo Richard will stick around in Mtl, maybe as a receiver. I think Merchant may be the odd man out unfortunately.

**AngeloV** · 05-27-2019, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by bannedforlife

I think so too. I think Hugo Richard will stick around in Mtl, maybe as a receiver. I think Merchant may be the odd man out unfortunately.

I think Merchant is the better athlete, so if a position change is in order, I would think he would be the guy.

**R.J** · 05-27-2019, 05:14 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Franklin as #1, Bethel-Thompson as #2, Prukop as #3, and O'Connor as #4 (Development QB).

**OV Argo** · 05-27-2019, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by bannedforlife

I think so too. I think Hugo Richard will stick around in Mtl, maybe as a receiver. I think Merchant may be the odd man out unfortunately.

Just curious why either of Richard or Merchant would stick in the CFL as a receiver ? Because of the example of Sinopoli I guess mostly ? - but Sinopoli spent 2 seasons as a Stamps QB before he was told he had to make the switch to try receiver (no choice - was not in the plans at QB anymore) - and Sinopoli is taller and has arguably much better athletic testing #s than Merchant and Richard - from Combine testing (Sinopoli only ran a 4.73 forty, but his 6.81 3 Cone quickness # - - is outstanding for any position); the chance or odds that either of Richard or Merchant make the kind of amazingly successful switch (greatest position switch in the history of pro football IMO) that Sinoploi did are probably something like 100,000 : 1 And Richard or Merchant are supposed to better receiver talents than some of the accomplished / all-star Canadian receivers the Als have (K-J Grant) or could have drafted lately ??? - likely not in the same area code in receiving skills - now or ever.

I get that some want to see some of these Canadian QBs succeed in the CFL, but the deference to - oh they might have to make a position switch - you know what kind of CFL thinking - I find questionable to more like laughable. Merchant or Richard or O'Connor deserve real CFL shots at their real position = QB; and repeat shots with other CFL teams if they don't make the 1st team they tried out for - dozens of young import QBs get those chances.

**OV Argo** · 05-27-2019, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Argo57

Still a much better option than Bridge.

Who ? - MacBeth ? - guess you could argue that

Kevin Glenn ??? - try comparing his play to Bridge's when they both faced the Argos in the same play-off game a couple of years back - that was the real Kevin Glenn then and now he's probably worse = just brutal.

**OV Argo** · 05-27-2019, 06:01 PM

Zero mention of Picton at QB (that i've seen) - does he get to even throw a pass in camp? Him and O'Connor don't get to participate in scrimmages ? Will either play a down in either of the ex. games ? WTF was the point of bringing them to TC?

**Argo57** · 05-27-2019, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by OV Argo

Who ? - MacBeth ? - guess you could argue that

Kevin Glenn ??? - try comparing his play to Bridge's when they both faced the Argos in the same play-off game a couple of years back - that was the real Kevin Glenn then and now he's probably worse = just brutal.

MBT, wasn’t talking about Glenn.