Great crowds this weekend (earlier start to the season was a mistake)

[KCargosfan]

One game to really watch will be Oct. 26 when Sask. visits Edmonton.

If the Riders are still in contention for the No. 1 seed in the West and Edmonton is still in contention for a playoff spot, that could lead to a 45K+ crowd (if weather is somewhat acceptable allowing the Watermelon heads to travel). That game starts at 5 p.m. Edmonton time so I'm assuming that allows Rider fans time to get up Saturday morning and drive there if they want?

I noted this a couple years ago, but it's actually better for the CFL as a whole if Sask. doesn't suck.

[AngeloV]

Good to see you back but I thought that you were done replying?

You seem to have misunderstood what I'm saying. Our best attended games took place in the months of June and August:

June 23, 2016 Attendance 24,812
August 31, 2016 Attendance 17,509
August 19, 2017 Attendance 16,326
August 18, 2018 Attendance 18,104
June 23, 2018 Attendance 16, 450
June 22, 2019 Attendance 16, 734
August 16, 2019 Attendance 16,490

And at the same time I provided numbers showing the 6 lowest attended games were also played from June thru August. If your going to count the first ever game at BMO which was a special event, then you have to count the playoff game too, no?

You also have to factor in the fact that 4 of those highly attended games which you have provided numbers for were during the EX. Highly promoted and discounted.

[Neely2005]

CFL attendance as a whole is way better from roughly the last week of August through the end of the regular season.

Again, Winnipeg, with an undefeated team and arguably the second-best fanbase in the league, couldn't break 26K on a Friday night in mid-July.

As AV pointed out, recent Argos attendance as a whole is actually better in the fall, even with crap teams in 2016 and 2018.

And the 2016 home opener has to be thrown out as that was the first game at BMO.

Honestly I don't even understand what you're trying to argure here. Even with this years earlier start the last Regular Season game this year is on November 2nd so there are still the same number of games in September and October as there always are.

[Neely2005]

One game to really watch will be Oct. 26 when Sask. visits Edmonton.

If the Riders are still in contention for the No. 1 seed in the West and Edmonton is still in contention for a playoff spot, that could lead to a 45K+ crowd (if weather is somewhat acceptable allowing the Watermelon heads to travel). That game starts at 5 p.m. Edmonton time so I'm assuming that allows Rider fans time to get up Saturday morning and drive there if they want?

I noted this a couple years ago, but it's actually better for the CFL as a whole if Sask. doesn't suck.

Why would the weather matter? Isn't your point that people prefer attending games in the Fall?

[Neely2005]

And at the same time I provided numbers showing the 6 lowest attended games were also played from June thru August. If your going to count the first ever game at BMO which was a special event, then you have to count the playoff game too, no?

You also have to factor in the fact that 4 of those highly attended games which you have provided numbers for were during the EX. Highly promoted and discounted.

Good to see that you're still replying.

You're arguing something that I'm not. All I said is that our best attended Regular Season games (@ BMO Field) All took place in June and August.

Almost every Regular Season home game has some kind of promotion, Family Day, Concert Series, Country Night, Fan Appreciation Day, Military Night, Bobblehead Night...

[AngeloV]

Good to see that you're still replying.

You're arguing something that I'm not. All I said is that our best attended Regular Season games (@ BMO Field) All took place in June and August.

Almost every Regular Season home game has some kind of promotion, Family Day, Concert Series, Country Night, Fan Appreciation Day, Military Night, Bobblehead Night...

My point is you are only looking at it from the one perspective. Again, how can you not note that their 6 lowest attended games came during June-Aug months? The overall average is higher for September and October. So I really don't know what point you are trying to prove. If it the fact that attendance is higher in the "summer" months, it's is not, at least on average.

As for promotion, the EX is always the most promoted and discounted game of the season. In fact, many of the summer games in general are heavily discounted. A sign that they don't sell very well.

Just my opinion, but I think you are looking at this based on your personal preference and not the statistical data.

[KCargosfan]

Why would the weather matter? Isn't your point that people prefer attending games in the Fall?

Now you're just being a prick with your first question.

As to your second question, yes, and the numbers back my stance up.

[KCargosfan]

Honestly I don't even understand what you're trying to argure here. Even with this years earlier start the last Regular Season game this year is on November 2nd so there are still the same number of games in September and October as there always are.

I've never understood your argument. In fact, have you even made one? You just seem to want the season to start earlier, which it isn't going to.

And you still can't point to any league-wide numbers that show attendance from mid-June to mid-August is better than the rest of the year, because it doesn't exist.

[Neely2005]

My point is you are only looking at it from the one perspective. Again, how can you not note that their 6 lowest attended games came during June-Aug months? The overall average is higher for September and October. So I really don't know what point you are trying to prove. If it the fact that attendance is higher in the "summer" months, it's is not, at least on average.

As for promotion, the EX is always the most promoted and discounted game of the season. In fact, many of the summer games in general are heavily discounted. A sign that they don't sell very well.

Just my opinion, but I think you are looking at this based on your personal preference and not the statistical data.

Good to see that you're still replying.

The only thing I'm proving is that our best attended Regular Season games at BMO Field all took place in June and August. That's it, that's all.

[Neely2005]

Now you're just being a prick with your first question.

As to your second question, yes, and the numbers back my stance up.

No need for the personal insults, that's the type of thing that will get you banned.

[Neely2005]

I've never understood your argument. In fact, have you even made one? You just seem to want the season to start earlier, which it isn't going to.

And you still can't point to any league-wide numbers that show attendance from mid-June to mid-August is better than the rest of the year, because it doesn't exist.

You seem to be having a difficult time grasping that even though the season started earlier this year there are still the same amount of games in September and October (after Labour Day) as there always are. The Regular Season is still ending in November as it always has.

[Argo57]

No need for the personal insults, that's the type of thing that will get you banned.

Reading your posts I understand his reaction, you seem to like arguing for the sake of it most of the time.
Making your point without arrogance and condescension would be a good start, the vast majority on this site simply enjoy discussing all things Argo.

[Neely2005]

Reading your posts I understand his reaction, you seem to like arguing for the sake of it most of the time.
Making your point without arrogance and condescension would be a good start, the vast majority on this site simply enjoy discussing all things Argo.

One of the drawbacks of the written word is that there's little or no tone. There's no arrogance or condescension on my part. If you're getting that then you're reading it into my comments yourself.

Unfortunately some people on this site seem to have a difficult time dealing with different opinions than their own. It seems to frustrate them and cause them to become angry and lash out.

[Argo57]

One of the drawbacks of the written word is that there's little or no tone. There's no arrogance or condescension on my part. If you're getting that then you're reading it into my comments yourself.

Unfortunately some people on this site seem to have a difficult time dealing with different opinions than their own. It seems to frustrate them and cause them to become angry and lash out.

I rest my case👍

[Neely2005]

I rest my case👍

Lol, I guess some people have difficulty just having a dispassionate conversation without reading more into it.

[ArgoRavi]

One game to really watch will be Oct. 26 when Sask. visits Edmonton.

If the Riders are still in contention for the No. 1 seed in the West and Edmonton is still in contention for a playoff spot, that could lead to a 45K+ crowd (if weather is somewhat acceptable allowing the Watermelon heads to travel). That game starts at 5 p.m. Edmonton time so I'm assuming that allows Rider fans time to get up Saturday morning and drive there if they want?

I noted this a couple years ago, but it's actually better for the CFL as a whole if Sask. doesn't suck.

The three biggest attendance and TV ratings drivers in the league are Toronto, BC and Saskatchewan. When all three are contending, attendance and ratings are much stronger.

[Neely2005]

The three biggest attendance and TV ratings drivers in the league are Toronto, BC and Saskatchewan. When all three are contending, attendance and ratings are much stronger.

I'd agree for TV Ratings (and Montreal when you add in the RDS French TV Ratings) but BC and Toronto for attendance?

[Neely2005]

Another beautiful Summer Day for a football game!

[argos1873]

The season used to start at the beginning of September. Imagine that.

[Argo57]

Another poorly attended summer football game, I suspect next weeks crowd will improve upon the return of fall football.