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  1. 09-19-2019, 03:54 PM #1
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    Story on M B-T

    His is a story worth telling.

    We had a long chat after Wednesday's practice. He was incredibly open about what went wrong, and what's gone right.

    Enjoy.

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    I was one of those people who had written M B-T off after the Edmonton game.

    His play since then has been vastly improved. I think Zach Collaros could have played a factor as well.
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    MBT has been cut more times than that guy who was trying to shave his face in the bathroom of a moving passenger train. The fellow (MBT) just won't quit.
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    I've said it before and I'll repeat: I am increasingly sold on MBT as our future (as well as present) starting QB. Even when he was struggling in the early part of the season, I loved his demeanour and command of the huddle. Now that he has relaxed, he seems to be growing into the role very nicely. This is his third season, when QBs often take a major step up. Yes he's 30, and no he's not Ricky Ray, but right now he is one of the top-performing QBs in this league. If he keeps this up for the rest of the season, he will have earned a new contract with a sizeable pay increase. I'm hoping that happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    I've said it before and I'll repeat: I am increasingly sold on MBT as our future (as well as present) starting QB. Even when he was struggling in the early part of the season, I loved his demeanour and command of the huddle. Now that he has relaxed, he seems to be growing into the role very nicely. This is his third season, when QBs often take a major step up. Yes he's 30, and no he's not Ricky Ray, but right now he is one of the top-performing QBs in this league. If he keeps this up for the rest of the season, he will have earned a new contract with a sizeable pay increase. I'm hoping that happens.
    I agree Paul. Some of the comments on here about him are so ridiculous it isn't funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    I've said it before and I'll repeat: I am increasingly sold on MBT as our future (as well as present) starting QB. Even when he was struggling in the early part of the season, I loved his demeanour and command of the huddle. Now that he has relaxed, he seems to be growing into the role very nicely. This is his third season, when QBs often take a major step up. Yes he's 30, and no he's not Ricky Ray, but right now he is one of the top-performing QBs in this league. If he keeps this up for the rest of the season, he will have earned a new contract with a sizeable pay increase. I'm hoping that happens.
    What’s frustrating, is that if he was playing at this level during the start of the season, we would be talking playoffs. I know he’s not all to blame, but the lack of QB play was significant, especially in the close losses that could have been easy wins. If MBT has another implosion, will fans be able to still believe? I’m sold that he’s the best QB we currently have, but not as the 2020 leader just yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    What’s frustrating, is that if he was playing at this level during the start of the season, we would be talking playoffs. I know he’s not all to blame, but the lack of QB play was significant, especially in the close losses that could have been easy wins. If MBT has another implosion, will fans be able to still believe? I’m sold that he’s the best QB we currently have, but not as the 2020 leader just yet.
    Maybe the off-season "promise" to Franklin that he'd be the starter hurt the team. It's not like Franklin outplayed MBT in camp.

    Too many unknowns for 2020, like who the GM and coach will be, the health of Collaros, the upcoming trade deadline, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argolio View Post
    Maybe the off-season "promise" to Franklin that he'd be the starter hurt the team. It's not like Franklin outplayed MBT in camp.

    Too many unknowns for 2020, like who the GM and coach will be, the health of Collaros, the upcoming trade deadline, etc.
    If that is it for Franklin, he has to be one of the biggest busts in recent Argos memory. If we go with MBT and he falters, Franklin would have set the franchise back 3 years of winning. Terrible.

    I have no idea why Collaros is on this team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    If that is it for Franklin, he has to be one of the biggest busts in recent Argos memory. If we go with MBT and he falters, Franklin would have set the franchise back 3 years of winning. Terrible.

    I have no idea why Collaros is on this team.
    How is Franklin a bust? His contract is not huge, he cost us Mason Woods, who was a 2nd round pick and is currently out of football. Seems like a small price. When Franklin came to Toronto, he was still unproven. As for Collaros, if he heals up and continues his career, perhaps he would agree to backup a starter.

    I don't understand your comment about the franchise being set back 3 years of winning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    If that is it for Franklin, he has to be one of the biggest busts in recent Argos memory. If we go with MBT and he falters, Franklin would have set the franchise back 3 years of winning. Terrible.

    I have no idea why Collaros is on this team.
    A bust? Maybe we put unrealistic expectations on him, but the fact is he had 2 great games prior to coming here. Unfortunately both were against the Argos so we may not have been looking at things objectively. Just like every other QB that comes to this league, until they firmly establish themselves, they are all just prospects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    I've said it before and I'll repeat: I am increasingly sold on MBT as our future (as well as present) starting QB. Even when he was struggling in the early part of the season, I loved his demeanour and command of the huddle. Now that he has relaxed, he seems to be growing into the role very nicely. This is his third season, when QBs often take a major step up. Yes he's 30, and no he's not Ricky Ray, but right now he is one of the top-performing QBs in this league. If he keeps this up for the rest of the season, he will have earned a new contract with a sizeable pay increase. I'm hoping that happens.
    I am not entirely sold on MBT yet, but he is growing on me. I do agree his demeanour in terms of his unflappability and his command of the huddle are the keys to his success so far.
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    Stand up guy who has earned the respect of his team, very important IMO.
    This guy has taken a beating this season and still competes, many of us dumped on him when he was struggling so conversely he should be praised and respected for persevering and turning it around.
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    Every time MBT grows on you a little bit, he has a stinker like so far this first half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    I've said it before and I'll repeat: I am increasingly sold on MBT as our future (as well as present) starting QB. Even when he was struggling in the early part of the season, I loved his demeanour and command of the huddle. Now that he has relaxed, he seems to be growing into the role very nicely. This is his third season, when QBs often take a major step up. Yes he's 30, and no he's not Ricky Ray, but right now he is one of the top-performing QBs in this league. If he keeps this up for the rest of the season, he will have earned a new contract with a sizeable pay increase. I'm hoping that happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by argotom View Post
    Every time MBT grows on you a little bit, he has a stinker like so far this first half.
    This is it in a nutshell.... and why I would not put my faith and trust into MBT being the starting QB. I mean, I love the guy... but he's not THE guy. Between bad decisions and overthrowing or underthrowing receivers, he is just not consistent enough for me. And for all of the progress he has made, I don't believe the bottom line will change. For all of the criticisms of James Franklin, he hasn't had near the same amount of opportunities as MBT to really prove himself. At this point, I feel like even if they give the ball to Franklin, all we are doing is showcasing him so another team can grab him in free agency. I can't believe that he would want to stay in Toronto in the current situation.
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    MBT showed again tonight may be a capable QB----------as a backup.
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    I really hope MBT excels, in the XFL with coach Trestman

    Love your article, but when MBT quoted Jim Carrey, and is from San Fran, that kinda made sense of everything. HAHA.

    He is a likeable 2nd stringer at best, and at 31 not worth the investment.
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