Harris, Collaros, Fajardo, Kilgore and probably Franklin Argos - CFL QB Farm Team

[jerrym]

Harris, Collaros, Fajardo, Kilgore and probably Franklin. The Toronto Argonauts - QB farm team of the CFL. Is it possible for the team to keep a young QB?

[Will]

While he was never an Argo, it is slightly frustrating that Popp was the one who found Vernon Adams Jr.

[paulwoods13]

While he was never an Argo, it is slightly frustrating that Popp was the one who found Vernon Adams Jr.

Altho he was originally on B.C.'s neg list, IIRC, and had to be obtained for a first-round draft pick. So some credit to Wally as well.

[Neely2005]

At least Harris and Collaros were understandable as we had Ray in MVP form. We're probably going to lose Franklin because MBT!

[R.J]

Not thinking about the future, and holding onto Ricky Ray too long lead to the Argos losing Harris, Collaros in his prime, and Fajardo. It’ll probably happen again now with the morons leading this team sticking with the clearly backup at best Bethel-Thompson.

Prukop and O’Connor should get the rest of the reps this season IMO, but I see no point in holding my breath on that, as the morons will ride Bethel-Thompson and Franklin until the fat lady sings.

[ArgoGabe22]

Idk if Kilgore is close to the others.

[jerrym]

Idk if Kilgore is close to the others.

I agree. However, I didn't say otherwise. However, he is deemed good enough by another team to be a #2 and to start when Harris went down.

[gilthethrill]

I agree. However, I didn't say otherwise. However, he is deemed good enough by another team to be a #2 and to start when Harris went down.

I think Kilgore won the #2 job in Edmonton because there was no one else.

[Antwon]

I understand losing Harris and Collaros because Ray was still playing well. But Fajardo ticks me off. He spends two years behind Ray learning, then Trestman and Popp let him go as a FA. Then he spends a year learning from Lulay.
He's played behind two future HOF's. Not a surprise he's playing so well now.

[jerrym]

Are the Argos showcasing Franklin for a possible trade? It would not surprise me considering their record with other young QBs. If he does well in the next couple of games, I hope they at least see if they can resign him at a reasonable price before putting out there as trade bait. But if history is predictive, that seems unlikely.

[jerrym]

Harris is leading the CFL in passing yardage, even though he missed a game, while also going 15/4 in TDs/Int. with a 104.4 Efficiency rating and a 0.9% interception rate. Fajardo, despite seeing relatively little action before this breakout season is fifth in passing yardage with a 99.6 efficiency rating and likely to be third after this week as he is about 100 yards behind MBT and Adams who are not starting and suspended respectively. It hurts to think how much they might have improved the Argos and how long that might have lasted.

[AngeloV]

Harris is leading the CFL in passing yardage, even though he missed a game, while also going 15/4 in TDs/Int. with a 104.4 Efficiency rating and a 0.9% interception rate. Fajardo, despite seeing relatively little action before this breakout season is fifth in passing yardage with a 99.6 efficiency rating and likely to be third after this week as he is about 100 yards behind MBT and Adams who are not starting and suspended respectively. It hurts to think how much they might have improved the Argos and how long that might have lasted.

Harris has had the same problems the Argos QB's have had this season in not being able to finish off drives. He really hasn't been that good since week 3 (excluding the game in Toronto). Difference being his D has been really good, yet he still only led them to a 6-6 record before going down. I've always liked Harris' toughness, but I'm not going to concede that he's a great QB. As I have said, he left Ottawa for Edmonton, and made both teams worse.

[jerrym]

Harris has had the same problems the Argos QB's have had this season in not being able to finish off drives. He really hasn't been that good since week 3 (excluding the game in Toronto). Difference being his D has been really good, yet he still only led them to a 6-6 record before going down. I've always liked Harris' toughness, but I'm not going to concede that he's a great QB. As I have said, he left Ottawa for Edmonton, and made both teams worse.

I never said he was great but he is one of the better QBs in the league and better than MBT, IMO.

[doubleblue]

I never said he was great but he is one of the better QBs in the league and better than MBT, IMO.

I would rate Harris #4 in the League behind Mitchell, Reilly and Masoli. Followed by Nichols, Adams, Fajardo, Bethel-Thompson and who ever Ottawa starts.
Vernon Adams would be my pick to eventually move up a couple of notches.
I'm sure there will be great agreement.

[AngeloV]

I would rate Harris #4 in the League behind Mitchell, Reilly and Masoli. Followed by Nichols, Adams, Fajardo, Bethel-Thompson and who ever Ottawa starts.
Vernon Adams would be my pick to eventually move up a couple of notches.
I'm sure there will be great agreement.

Agree for the most part. To me BLM and Masoli are 1-2. I think Reilly has been slipping the last couple of years. Yes he has a horrible o-line in BC, but he still throws a lot of bad picks that just aren't on the o-line. I have Adams ahead of him right now. Would be interesting to see how good Nichols would be if he had to throw as much as other QB's do. I think he would be at the bottom of the list TBH.

[ArgoZ]

I would rate Harris #4 in the League behind Mitchell, Reilly and Masoli. Followed by Nichols, Adams, Fajardo, Bethel-Thompson and who ever Ottawa starts.
Vernon Adams would be my pick to eventually move up a couple of notches.
I'm sure there will be great agreement.

To think that in 2015, Collaros was better than all of them. Hamilton would have won the cup that year had he stayed healthy. I didn’t want to admit it at the time, but looking back he was the closest player I have ever seen to Flutie that year, as far as confidence and skill level.

[Neely2005]

Well that pro Fajardo poster from a couple years ago is being proven correct.

[ArgoZ]

Well that pro Fajardo poster from a couple years ago is being proven correct.

Nothing wrong with having an opinion. It was how they were delivering it in a constant, annoying way. I’m surprised at Fajardo’s success. I don’t believe he’s as good as he’s getting credit for. Still shows a very weak arm for a pro QB. They are making it work though, mostly do his run threat and some good play calling.

Edit: Nice 50 yard TD pass to prove me wrong, LOL.

[OV Argo]

Well that pro Fajardo poster from a couple years ago is being proven correct.

Sure would be interesting to go back and read the Fajardo reviews from commentators here when he got some playing time as an Argo - some thought he was at least impressive, others wrote him off big-time.

[OV Argo]

Not thinking about the future, and holding onto Ricky Ray too long lead to the Argos losing Harris, Collaros in his prime, and Fajardo. It’ll probably happen again now with the morons leading this team sticking with the clearly backup at best Bethel-Thompson.

Prukop and O’Connor should get the rest of the reps this season IMO, but I see no point in holding my breath on that, as the morons will ride Bethel-Thompson and Franklin until the fat lady sings.

I`ll be shocked if Prukop, and especially O`Connor play a down for this team this season; yup - better to stick with the average to mediocre performances of QBs who have shown they are not going to win consistently rather than go to a young QB and see what they can do.

Decision making of CFL coaching staffs - both rosters and play-book & calling; are teams like Ottawa, BC and the Argos really going to stick with their GM, HC and coaching staff after putrid, laughable seasons ÉÉÉ