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    It's official as one of the HC dominos has fallen, Campbell to BC.
    Meanwhile here in TO, another day and more crickets............?

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    Quote Originally Posted by argotom View Post
    It's official as one of the HC dominos has fallen, Campbell to BC.
    Meanwhile here in TO, another day and more crickets............?
    At this point, I think it's just easier to accept that Chamblin is sticking around. I'll also add in that since Bell/Tanenbaum and later MLSE have become involved, everything they announce is always delayed. Trestman's firing literally being the only exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argotom View Post
    It's official as one of the HC dominos has fallen, Campbell to BC.
    Meanwhile here in TO, another day and more crickets............?
    I still think O'Shea is coming to Toronto. Even more so after watching his "press conference" last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    I still think O'Shea is coming to Toronto. Even more so after watching his "press conference" last week.
    I'm in the same boat here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I'm in the same boat here.
    I am convinced that O'Shea is the Argos #1 target, or they would have simply announced the return of Chamblin by now.
    Chamblin is probably the 2nd choice & we may even see him back as a DCO, should he change his mind and decide to work under MOS.
    That would be ideal, but CC probably won't accept much of a pay cut. The Argos do have an Coaching exception card they can play in all this, if I understand this right.
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    Argos don’t have to announce the return of Chamblin. He’s the coach until announced he’s been relieved of his duties

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Gonzo View Post
    The Argos do have an Coaching exception card they can play in all this, if I understand this right.
    That is correct, because they fired Trestman prior to the coaches cap officially being implemented by the league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    I still think O'Shea is coming to Toronto. Even more so after watching his "press conference" last week.
    Could be I suppose. And I'd be willing to bet that the team is more than well aware keeping Chamblin around will be a hard sell to the fan base (Pinball or no Pinball). So, it could be a Chamblin or O'Shea thing, where the team is just waiting for O'Shea to tell Winnipeg that he's not coming back, then Toronto signs him and gives the boot to Chamblin. Although, if O'Shea decides to stay in Winnipeg, Chamblin goes nowhere.

    What's concerning for me is if Chamblin stays, it sounds as though Pinball and Murphy will hire his Co-ordinators. I don't see Chamblin working out long term with someone who could be his potential replacement. He's essentially a lame duck coach, so why not just rip off the band aid now and get it over with, instead of wasting time ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Agree with you.
    What is odd is questioning (trolling) a fan base that has the nerve to want a coach removed after such a miserable season in which the team was often ill prepared and ended up 4-14.
    Trolling? I now know that only one line of thinking is allowed otherwise your labeled here. I have a suggestion where you can stick your trolling remark.

    Many here want CC gone. I offered the response that he's not going going anywhere and so far that is being shown as fact. And I still think he's staying since IMO Pinball would not drag out firing someone. (based on his past shown history) What I "want" is irrelevant!!!!

    enjoy 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    What's concerning for me is if Chamblin stays, it sounds as though Pinball and Murphy will hire his Co-ordinators. I don't see Chamblin working out long term with someone who could be his potential replacement. He's essentially a lame duck coach, so why not just rip off the band aid now and get it over with, instead of wasting time ?
    What a scary but plausible scenario. I already know the outcome. After we go 0-6 or 1-8, I can see Pinball stepping in after relieving Chamblin. A wasted start and everyone’s time. The team will rally behind Pinball and pull off a few wins, but will already be in to big of a hole to make the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Trolling? I now know that only one line of thinking is allowed otherwise your labeled here. I have a suggestion where you can stick your trolling remark.

    Many here want CC gone. I offered the response that he's not going going anywhere and so far that is being shown as fact. And I still think he's staying since IMO Pinball would not drag out firing someone. (based on his past shown history) What I "want" is irrelevant!!!!

    enjoy 2020
    Definitely not trolling, Ron.

    While I don't agree with your reasoning that Pinball will keep him because he hasn't failed Pinball, I do agree that CC is almost certainly going to be the head coach at the start of the 2020 season. It's unlikely he would be fired this late in the process. IMO there's no reason to think MOS is leaving Wpg, and there is no other Hail Mary coach on the horizon -- unless Pinball can somehow persuade Flutie to come in, which is highly unlikely.

    I believe Manning wants to see what Chamblin can do if he's not burdened with being DC as well as HC. I don't agree that will make enough of a difference, and like others I'm worried about wasting part or all of the season trying to turn Chamblin into a viable head coach. But at this point I've come to accept that this is the likeliest scenario, and hoping that if and when it comes to fruition, my judgment about CC turns out to be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Trolling? I now know that only one line of thinking is allowed otherwise your labeled here. I have a suggestion where you can stick your trolling remark.

    Many here want CC gone. I offered the response that he's not going going anywhere and so far that is being shown as fact. And I still think he's staying since IMO Pinball would not drag out firing someone. (based on his past shown history) What I "want" is irrelevant!!!!

    enjoy 2020
    Fair enough Ron, I don’t think anyone in their right mind wants Chamblin back after such a miserable 2019 season.
    And yes I will enjoy the 2020 season👍
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Definitely not trolling, Ron.

    While I don't agree with your reasoning that Pinball will keep him because he hasn't failed Pinball, I do agree that CC is almost certainly going to be the head coach at the start of the 2020 season. It's unlikely he would be fired this late in the process. IMO there's no reason to think MOS is leaving Wpg, and there is no other Hail Mary coach on the horizon -- unless Pinball can somehow persuade Flutie to come in, which is highly unlikely.

    I believe Manning wants to see what Chamblin can do if he's not burdened with being DC as well as HC. I don't agree that will make enough of a difference, and like others I'm worried about wasting part or all of the season trying to turn Chamblin into a viable head coach. But at this point I've come to accept that this is the likeliest scenario, and hoping that if and when it comes to fruition, my judgment about CC turns out to be wrong.
    Argos can’t afford to waste time experimenting with Chamblin in 2020, this organization needs to get things turned around ASAP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Argos can’t afford to waste time experimenting with Chamblin in 2020, this organization needs to get things turned around ASAP!

    Agreed - big-time !!!

    I wouldn't mind Pinball as HC - as a leader & motivator - surrounded by good X & O guys at OC & DC- lots of candidates there i suppose (but likely will be recycled CFL types): Stef Ptaszek as OC & Leroy Blugh as DC would be good ones IMO = extensive Canadian football resumes including some HC experience - with either groomed as future HC candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    Agreed - big-time !!!

    I wouldn't mind Pinball as HC - as a leader & motivator - surrounded by good X & O guys at OC & DC- lots of candidates there i suppose (but likely will be recycled CFL types): Stef Ptaszek as OC & Leroy Blugh as DC would be good ones IMO = extensive Canadian football resumes including some HC experience - with either groomed as future HC candidate.
    Another thing to consider OV, is Toronto a desirable destination for any prospective coordinator with Chamblin in charge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Another thing to consider OV, is Toronto a desirable destination for any prospective coordinator with Chamblin in charge?
    For an assistant wanting to move up quickly to head coach, Toronto could be a very desirable destination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    For an assistant wanting to move up quickly to head coach, Toronto could be a very desirable destination.
    Sounds like a recipe for success, wait for the lame duck HC to get fired to advance your career (could get toxic).
    Hire the best HC candidate available and let him build his staff from there, as I said no time to waste here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    I still think O'Shea is coming to Toronto. Even more so after watching his "press conference" last week.
    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I'm in the same boat here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Gonzo View Post
    I am convinced that O'Shea is the Argos #1 target, or they would have simply announced the return of Chamblin by now.
    Chamblin is probably the 2nd choice & we may even see him back as a DCO, should he change his mind and decide to work under MOS.
    That would be ideal, but CC probably won't accept much of a pay cut. The Argos do have an Coaching exception card they can play in all this, if I understand this right.
    O'Shea says the odds are "pretty high" he is staying in Winnipeg, according to CBC. He's pretty much a straight shooter so I think it's unlikely he is coming here.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...bers-1.5379021

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