2019-2020 Pending Argo Free Agents: Who Should the Argos Keep?

[ArgoZ]

My understanding is things will change from 20 American, 21 Canadians + 3 QB's + 1 Global = 45 to 20 Americans, 21 Canadians + 2 QB's + 2 Globals + 45
Maybe someone can clarify this if I'm wrong.
I would like to see 22 Americans, 22 Canadians + 2 Global = 46 and let the Coaches decide how many QB's they want on the roster for any given day.

I believe you are correct and your solution makes sense. Who cares if they dress 1 or 5 qb’s? It should be up to the team.

[Rich]

If Arbuckle signs elsewhere, will Hufnagel get as ragged on by Stamps fans as Barker was by (some) Argos fans for keeping Ray over Collaros and Harris?

I was one of those who argued strenuously back in 2014 that we should go with Collaros and kiss Ricky goodbye.

I’m still not convinced we made the right decision to let Collaros go.

Considering his outstanding play at times in Hamilton, and considering his excellent recent play with Winnipeg, it’s not hard to imagine Collaros leading the Argos to more than one Cup win over the past six seasons.

[paulwoods13]

IMO teams should (and will) be able to dress a third QB if they are willing to use one of their backup NAT or INT slots for him. So, for instance, O'Connor could dress as one of the 21 NATs, or Prukop could dress as one of the 20 INTs (in addition to two designated QBs). I don't know whether, if a team were to do this, the third QB could be on the field at the same time as one of the two designated QBs. I personally don't see why he couldn't be, but the league had a rule in the past that designated QBs could not play other positions so who knows.

[paulwoods13]

I was one of those who argued strenuously back in 2014 that we should go with Collaros and kiss Ricky goodbye.

I’m still not convinced we made the right decision to let Collaros go.

Considering his outstanding play at times in Hamilton, and considering his excellent recent play with Winnipeg, it’s not hard to imagine Collaros leading the Argos to more than one Cup win over the past six seasons.

I'm not looking to reopen a five-year-old debate about the merits of Ray vs. Collaros. Just pointing out that we may soon see another team do exactly what the Argos got pilloried (in some quarters) for doing in the past.

[jerrym]

My Choices:

Tobi Antigha: okay not essential
Frank Beltre: time to move on unless can't a replacement
McLeod Bethel-Thompson: at the right price
Freddie Bishop III: hopefully can find someone better
Jamal Campbell: Key young Canadian
Davon Coleman: worth keeping if price is right
Armanti Edwards: Certainly
Kevin Fogg: only if no one is pursuing him
James Franklin: team and him both need a change
Jermaine Gabriel: still think he is valuable as Canadian content
S.J Green: good leadership skills - keep as long as no high bidders
Justin Herdman-Reed: keep if no high bids
Tyler Holmes: keep only if a decent contract
Roubbens Joseph: already signed - only played 3 games - hopefully a low contract -didn't see him enough to judge anything
Abdul Kanneh: good bye
Cleyon Laing: a must
Sean McEwen: a must
Zackary Medeiros: bye bye
Jonathon Mincy: needed to improve defensive backfield
Llevi Noel: has potential and versatile so keep
Ronnie Pfeffer: only on a low contract and with hope can find someone better
Dakota Prukup: if possible
Chris Rainey: still valuable
Jimmy Ralph: on a low contract
Shaq Richardson: at a decent price
Rodney Smith: No
Eric Striker: No
Trumaine Washington: at a decent price
Derel Walker: need a deep threat so unless bidding goes crazy keep him
Ian Wild: bye bye
Bear Woods: already signed has key leadership skills
Chandler Worthy: signed has improved offers versatility

[KCargosfan]

Doug Flutie played for free in 1995?

[paulwoods13]

Doug Flutie played for free in 1995?

That's my understanding, yes.

[gilthethrill]

My Choices:

Tobi Antigha: okay not essential
Frank Beltre: time to move on unless can't a replacement
McLeod Bethel-Thompson: at the right price
Freddie Bishop III: hopefully can find someone better
Jamal Campbell: Key young Canadian
Davon Coleman: worth keeping if price is right
Armanti Edwards: Certainly
Kevin Fogg: only if no one is pursuing him
James Franklin: team and him both need a change
Jermaine Gabriel: still think he is valuable as Canadian content
S.J Green: good leadership skills - keep as long as no high bidders
Justin Herdman-Reed: keep if no high bids
Tyler Holmes: keep only if a decent contract
Roubbens Joseph: already signed - only played 3 games - hopefully a low contract -didn't see him enough to judge anything
Abdul Kanneh: good bye
Cleyon Laing: a must
Sean McEwen: a must
Zackary Medeiros: bye bye
Jonathon Mincy: needed to improve defensive backfield
Llevi Noel: has potential and versatile so keep
Ronnie Pfeffer: only on a low contract and with hope can find someone better
Dakota Prukup: if possible
Chris Rainey: still valuable
Jimmy Ralph: on a low contract
Shaq Richardson: at a decent price
Rodney Smith: No
Eric Striker: No
Trumaine Washington: at a decent price
Derel Walker: need a deep threat so unless bidding goes crazy keep him
Ian Wild: bye bye
Bear Woods: already signed has key leadership skills
Chandler Worthy: signed has improved offers versatility

Thing is about Beltre, he has become one of the best ST cover guys in the league. I would not be so quick to just let him walk.

[AngeloV]

My Choices:

Tobi Antigha: okay not essential
Frank Beltre: time to move on unless can't a replacement
McLeod Bethel-Thompson: at the right price
Freddie Bishop III: hopefully can find someone better
Jamal Campbell: Key young Canadian
Davon Coleman: worth keeping if price is right
Armanti Edwards: Certainly
Kevin Fogg: only if no one is pursuing him
James Franklin: team and him both need a change
Jermaine Gabriel: still think he is valuable as Canadian content
S.J Green: good leadership skills - keep as long as no high bidders
Justin Herdman-Reed: keep if no high bids
Tyler Holmes: keep only if a decent contract
Roubbens Joseph: already signed - only played 3 games - hopefully a low contract -didn't see him enough to judge anything
Abdul Kanneh: good bye
Cleyon Laing: a must
Sean McEwen: a must
Zackary Medeiros: bye bye
Jonathon Mincy: needed to improve defensive backfield
Llevi Noel: has potential and versatile so keep
Ronnie Pfeffer: only on a low contract and with hope can find someone better
Dakota Prukup: if possible
Chris Rainey: still valuable
Jimmy Ralph: on a low contract
Shaq Richardson: at a decent price
Rodney Smith: No
Eric Striker: No
Trumaine Washington: at a decent price
Derel Walker: need a deep threat so unless bidding goes crazy keep him
Ian Wild: bye bye
Bear Woods: already signed has key leadership skills
Chandler Worthy: signed has improved offers versatility

I would keep Rodney Smith over Armanti Edwards. He showed great improvement this past season, while I think Edwards has peaked.

[AngeloV]

Thing is about Beltre, he has become one of the best ST cover guys in the league. I would not be so quick to just let him walk.

I would absolutely keep Beltre. Great on ST's, and a decent back up DE.

[paulwoods13]

I would absolutely keep Beltre. Great on ST's, and a decent back up DE.

I agree as well. Very valuable, and likely not very expensive.

If only he would start wearing lower socks and stop exposing both his knees and ankles -- it is without question the worst look in the entire league, and makes a mockery of the concept of a "uniform."

[Neely2005]

I agree as well. Very valuable, and likely not very expensive.

If only he would start wearing lower socks and stop exposing both his knees and ankles -- it is without question the worst look in the entire league, and makes a mockery of the concept of a "uniform."

I agree but at least he's wearing socks. Every year it seems more and more players aren't wearing socks at all.

[paulwoods13]

I agree but at least he's wearing socks. Every year it seems more and more players aren't wearing socks at all.

I don't remember seeing that look this year -- possibly in one very hot game. Saw it a few times in 2018 tho. Beltre never wears socks, per se -- he wears what are basically leggings between his bare ankles and his bare knees.

[Argo57]

Jerry’s comments are pretty solid.
I would try to keep Beltre (for reasons previously listed) and Rodney Smith who surprisingly was very effective in 2019, I would move on from Armanti Edwards, JerMaine Gabriel and Chris Rainey.

[KCargosfan]

That's my understanding, yes.

How did this happen? Is that even legal?

Why did he keep showing up?

[Neely2005]

I don't remember seeing that look this year -- possibly in one very hot game. Saw it a few times in 2018 tho. Beltre never wears socks, per se -- he wears what are basically leggings between his bare ankles and his bare knees.

IIRC I saw it in two games. Once it was RedBlacks players.

[paulwoods13]

How did this happen? Is that even legal?

Why did he keep showing up?

Flutie was on a personal services contract for most of his money. He likely had a smallish cfl player contract as well, which presumably did get him paid that amount. But the bulk of his salary was in a personal services deal between him and owner Larry Ryckman that was outside the league's purview. Both men talked about this in the Flutie episode of A Football Life which is shown periodically on NFL Network. Ryckman admits not paying and has the stones to say that despite that, he doesn't feel he owes Flutie a dime.

[gilthethrill]

I agree as well. Very valuable, and likely not very expensive.

If only he would start wearing lower socks and stop exposing both his knees and ankles -- it is without question the worst look in the entire league, and makes a mockery of the concept of a "uniform."

The way the Argos season went in 2019, surprised Beltre wasn't flagged for Dress Code Violation....after helping make a stop on a game winning goal line stand 😁

[AngeloV]

Flutie was on a personal services contract for most of his money. He likely had a smallish cfl player contract as well, which presumably did get him paid that amount. But the bulk of his salary was in a personal services deal between him and owner Larry Ryckman that was outside the league's purview. Both men talked about this in the Flutie episode of A Football Life which is shown periodically on NFL Network. Ryckman admits not paying and has the stones to say that despite that, he doesn't feel he owes Flutie a dime.

Justifying Murray Pezim's name for him of "Chicken Ryckman".

[gilthethrill]

Justifying Murray Pezim's name for him of "Chicken Ryckman".

Haha....the league had some owners who were "characters" back in the 90s.