Justin Dunk reporting Ryan Dinwiddie is the new Argos head coach

[Neely2005]

So three out of 16 for MBT in games where he threw at least one pass. Using your logic, Franklin was not a factor in three out of the seven games where he threw a pass. One of those ratios is far better than the other.

And whatever you want to say about MBT, he still wasn't the one who put up a nothing-burger in what should have been a showcase game for Franklin against a bad B.C. team. Must have been bad weather in the dome that night.

First you argued about a Single Field Goal. Now you're Strawmaning about Franklin.

Once again that really says everything that you need to know about how bad MBT was.

Hopefully neither Franklin or MBT will ever wear an Argonauts uniform again.

[ArgoGabe22]

Anyone who thinks MBT is a bad QB really needs to widen their understanding of football. There was a stretch in the mid to late season where he was one of the top 2 QBs statistically. He marched the team and put them in positions to win the game. I’m not sold he’s the guy either BUT I’d welcome him back and let him compete. If it’s him and Arbuckle. Or him and Collaros.

[R.J]

https://3downnation.com/2019/12/18/p...e-coordinator/

Argos would be smart to make the call. Lolley would be my first choice at DC, very closely followed by Thorpe.

[gilthethrill]

https://3downnation.com/2019/12/18/p...e-coordinator/

Argos would be smart to make the call. Lolley would be my first choice at DC, very closely followed by Thorpe.

Lolley really did an amazing job in Hamilton when promoted to DC from LB coach when the team started out 0-8 a couple seasons back. I am sure Dinwiddie knows of his work .

[Antwon]

Would have liked to see Benevides join the Argos. So we'll see who they go with now.

[ArgoGabe22]

https://3downnation.com/2019/12/18/p...e-coordinator/

Argos would be smart to make the call. Lolley would be my first choice at DC, very closely followed by Thorpe.

Reported earlier that Lolley was concerned that he couldn't coach next season because of a family member's health situation and would have to take the year off to be the care giver.

[R.J]

Reported earlier that Lolley was concerned that he couldn't coach next season because of a family member's health situation and would have to take the year off to be the care giver.

Yeah, I just saw that on Riderfans. Hopefully everything works out well for Lolley and his family. On to Thorpe hopefully, as I'd much rather have Thorpe over someone like Claybrooks.

[AngeloV]

Anyone who thinks MBT is a bad QB really needs to widen their understanding of football. There was a stretch in the mid to late season where he was one of the top 2 QBs statistically. He marched the team and put them in positions to win the game. I’m not sold he’s the guy either BUT I’d welcome him back and let him compete. If it’s him and Arbuckle. Or him and Collaros.

This.^^^^^^^^^^^^

[OV Argo]

Cory Chamblin is known as a defensive specialist; freed from the extra duties and stress of being a HC, he might excel now as just a DC - with more built-up CFL experience. Chamblin should be in the mix to be the "new" Argo DC; of course along with strong candidates like Claybrooks. Lolley and Thorpe ... now that Benevides is taken.

[R.J]

Cory Chamblin is known as a defensive specialist; freed from the extra duties and stress of being a HC, he might excel now as just a DC - with more built-up CFL experience. Chamblin should be in the mix to be the "new" Argo DC; of course along with strong candidates like Claybrooks. Lolley and Thorpe ... now that Benevides is taken.

[AngeloV]

I think what you meant is the greatest Barry Bonds quote ever...“Next question, because it was Stupid.”

[Argo57]

Anyone who thinks MBT is a bad QB really needs to widen their understanding of football. There was a stretch in the mid to late season where he was one of the top 2 QBs statistically. He marched the team and put them in positions to win the game. I’m not sold he’s the guy either BUT I’d welcome him back and let him compete. If it’s him and Arbuckle. Or him and Collaros.

Very sensible and accurate summary👍

[argolio]

First you argued about a Single Field Goal. Now you're Strawmaning about Franklin.

Once again that really says everything that you need to know about how bad MBT was.

Hopefully neither Franklin or MBT will ever wear an Argonauts uniform again.

I used your very own criteria to compare our QBs. Your very own numbers say one was clearly better than the other.

Don't blame me for believing in your criteria more than you do.

[Neely2005]

I used your very own criteria to compare our QBs. Your very own numbers say one was clearly better than the other.

Don't blame me for believing in your criteria more than you do.

No my comment was very clear: MBT was shutout in 2 Games. You disagreed, I proved you wrong.

You then tried to deflect by talking about Franklin in an attempt to change the subject.

[AngeloV]

[QUOTE=argolio;147690]I used your very own criteria to compare our QBs. Your very own numbers say one was clearly better than the other.

Don't blame me for believing in your criteria more than you do.[/QUOTE

Not including the last 2 games in which MBT played only a half a game....

In 12 games MBT started, which included a shutout loss, the Argos scored an average of 22.8 points per game. Overall outscored by their opponents 337-274

In the 4 games he didn't start, they averaged 11.25, being outscored by their opponents overall 192-45.
Any Quarterback that doubles the output of the teams other QB in terms of points scored can't be that bad.

Nuff said.

[Neely2005]

[QUOTE=AngeloV;147701]

I used your very own criteria to compare our QBs. Your very own numbers say one was clearly better than the other.

Don't blame me for believing in your criteria more than you do.[/QUOTE

Not including the last 2 games in which MBT played only a half a game....

In 12 games MBT started, which included a shutout loss, the Argos scored an average of 22.8 points per game. Overall outscored by their opponents 337-274

In the 4 games he didn't start, they averaged 11.25, being outscored by their opponents overall 192-45.
Any Quarterback that doubles the output of the teams other QB in terms of points scored can't be that bad.

Nuff said.

Again nothing to do with what I said but you go ahead and keep trying to deflect from the embarrassment that MBT was shutout in 2 CFL games last season.

[Will]

You are all aware that this thread is about Ryan Dinwiddie becoming head coach of the Toronto Argonauts and not for the latest MBT pissing match right?

[GregR]

Lol

[argolio]

No my comment was very clear: MBT was shutout in 2 Games. You disagreed, I proved you wrong.
You then tried to deflect by talking about Franklin in an attempt to change the subject.

1 disagreed with your definition of what it means for a QB to get shutout. Then I used your criteria to prove that one of our QBs was clearly better than the other. And according to your criteria, MBT's three in 16 ratio was better than two veteran starters, Mike Reilly (four in 16) and Trevor Harris (three in 13). Guess they should be REALLY embarrassed and fired by rockets into the sun.

You are all aware that this thread is about Ryan Dinwiddie becoming head coach of the Toronto Argonauts and not for the latest MBT pissing match right?

Good luck to him!

[AngeloV]

Figured I'd bump this thread.
Marshall Ferguson interviewed Dinwiddie yesterday and played it on his show today. The interview is at the beginning of this hour, so no need to search for it.

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/hamilton-11...2021-1.1587136