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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    But if you think MBT needs to be on the roster, then apparently you don't have much faith in O'Connor's abilities either. Signing MBT would seriously delay O'Connor's development as a CFL QB. It may even be that O'Connor is waiting to see if the Argos sign MBT before committing to play here.

    And all this talk about a completely open three-way TC competition for starting QB is pure fantasy, especially with limited or no preseason games.
    Can't believe I'm actually agreeing with Rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Can't believe I'm actually agreeing with Rich.
    Ya welcome back RJ we've all missed your nasty, combative tone :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Ya welcome back RJ we've all missed your nasty, combative tone :-)
    I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    It's about as funny as your insinuation that Bethel-Thompson is as good and/or a better runner than Arbuckle is...

    Fajardo and even Prukop were let go due to Bethel-Thompson's rise, not because Ray was supposed to be the starter. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    It's about as funny as your insinuation that Bethel-Thompson is as good and/or a better runner than Arbuckle is...

    Fajardo and even Prukop were let go due to Bethel-Thompson's rise, not because Ray was supposed to be the starter. Oh well.
    And Harris & Collaros (whom you mentioned) -- which "hard choice" was to blame for their departure?

    You mock me for liking MBT -- yet you keep banging a drum for Prukop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HumberValleyVillageArgo View Post
    What about getting MBT back? He played very, very well last season. 2019.
    MBT could sit and wait for an injury without losing market value.

    Zach Collaros rips up his knee and MBT is looking at $300,000 +.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos View Post
    MBT could sit and wait for an injury without losing market value.
    Very good chance he does exactly that.
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    Arbuckle is for sure an upgrade from Nicholl as the strange movements the last couple of days have actually improved our leadership position.
    Plus, still having O'Connor as back up is a definite improvement.
    MBT should not factor in under any circumstance as the team can surely sign a 3rd and 4th arm to complete the cupboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    But if you think MBT needs to be on the roster, then apparently you don't have much faith in O'Connor's abilities either. Signing MBT would seriously delay O'Connor's development as a CFL QB. It may even be that O'Connor is waiting to see if the Argos sign MBT before committing to play here.
    Nope, unless you have a bona fide, proven, quality QB starter, I'm all for open competition in TC - and the notion that they're can't be real, honest competition in TC (even without ex. games), is total hogwash, IMO. O'Connor is ready - now - to compete with the likes of MBT and Arbuckle; however - I wouldn't have expected any young or journeyman QB to come in and challenge Doug Flutie for the Argo starting QB job in 97

    Who's the new Argo starting tailback going to be? Maybe they should just hand the job to some guy who's never played Canadian football before, but has NFL on his resume and is an ego-head who thinks he's going to come in and dominate the little CFL ? That would be a swell idea - no need for competition in TC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Fajardo and even Prukop were let go due to Bethel-Thompson's rise, not because Ray was supposed to be the starter. Oh well.
    Prukop was let go because he had two straight poor camps. Good luck to him and all in Calgary, but let's not pretend he did anything here when it mattered, and I was a fan of his talent.

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    I'd say that Ray returning for 2018 and the Argos trading for Franklin pushed Fajardo out more than anything else. MBT had seen limited action in that 41-13 win over BC to end the 2017 season but that was about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    I'd say that Ray returning for 2018 and the Argos trading for Franklin pushed Fajardo out more than anything else. MBT had seen limited action in that 41-13 win over BC to end the 2017 season but that was about it.
    All I remember was Fajardo starting vs the Alouettes. And he did very poorly. Was anyone actually surprised he was let go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    All I remember was Fajardo starting vs the Alouettes. And he did very poorly. Was anyone actually surprised he was let go?
    Fajardo didn’t start that game. Jeff Matthews did. He was horrible. Fajardo somewhat brought them back in that game. Had he started I think the Argos would have won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Fajardo didn’t start that game. Jeff Matthews did. He was horrible. Fajardo somewhat brought them back in that game. Had he started I think the Argos would have won.
    Totally forgot Jeff Matthews even existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    Totally forgot Jeff Matthews even existed.
    AV is right, if Fajardo starts that game (Trestman what were you thinking) the Argos should have won. As for Mathews, I recall him playing a game for Montreal in 2018 I believe, Ottawa beat the absolute crap out of him but he kept getting up and gave the Als a chance to win. He was a tough qb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilthethrill View Post
    AV is right, if Fajardo starts that game (Trestman what were you thinking) the Argos should have won. As for Mathews, I recall him playing a game for Montreal in 2018 I believe, Ottawa beat the absolute crap out of him but he kept getting up and gave the Als a chance to win. He was a tough qb.
    Trestman liked his drop back pocket passers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    Trestman liked his drop back pocket passers.
    That he did.

    It was telling the next week when Montreal came to BMO and the Argos, with Ray in the lineup, beat the living hell out of them.
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