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    Pretty good game so far. How does rogers security permit all the streamers thrown at Becks? They would kick you out of an Argo game for much less than that.

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    I would think that this would be considered, as they say in soccer, a disappointing result for TFC. You have to win your home game in this situation and you can't allow the road team to score two goals. If I am not mistaken, if L.A. even gets a 0-0 or 1-1 draw in the rematch at home, they will advance and TFC's greatest moment will come to an end.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Pretty good game so far. How does rogers security permit all the streamers thrown at Becks? They would kick you out of an Argo game for much less than that.
    I just heard that someone threw a beer can at Beckham as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    I just heard that someone threw a beer can at Beckham as well.
    And I think his team scored the tying goal right after that.

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    I'm not sure that it was Rogers Security. Looked like maybe MLSE brought in their own guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argomANIA View Post
    I'm not sure that it was Rogers Security. Looked like maybe MLSE brought in their own guys.
    I think it was a mix of MLSE people and Rogers Security. As for the game, the exact same limitations inherent in watching football at Skydome are inherent in watching soccer at the Skydome. The attendance was 47,000 and it was announced as a Rogers Centre sellout (whatever that means), there were some empty seats in the 500 level, but they had the first two levels full.

    Yes Ravi, that last goal does have the potential to very much bite Toronto FC in the rear in the return engagement in Los Angeles.
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    Not a TFC fan, but what a great atmosphere the fans created in there. Flags, streamers, noise, etc. It would be great if we could somehow get Argo crowds as large and as excited. I believe both of those are possible but it will take a concerted effort on the part of the team and its most dedicated fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Not a TFC fan, but what a great atmosphere the fans created in there. Flags, streamers, noise, etc. It would be great if we could somehow get Argo crowds as large and as excited. I believe both of those are possible but it will take a concerted effort on the part of the team and its most dedicated fans.
    It was a great atmosphere, especially sitting (standing) in the south end zone where all the supporters were. It seems in that sense, Toronto FC has been able to buck the trend of Toronto sports fans being a quiet bunch. I can't speak for demographics of Toronto FC fans in general, but the supporter groups are made up of younger folks. But, North American sports also do not have the "supporters group" tradition that soccer has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argofan87 View Post
    I think it was a mix of MLSE people and Rogers Security. As for the game, the exact same limitations inherent in watching football at Skydome are inherent in watching soccer at the Skydome. The attendance was 47,000 and it was announced as a Rogers Centre sellout (whatever that means), there were some empty seats in the 500 level, but they had the first two levels full.

    Yes Ravi, that last goal does have the potential to very much bite Toronto FC in the rear in the return engagement in Los Angeles.
    Nice to how full it was, I don't get Sportsnet at home So I only kept up to date on Twitter.

    I'm curious to see where the approx 5,000 empty seats were. My assumption is 500 level end zones.
    I'm also happy to see that most comments thus from TFC fans that I've found don't slag the Argos for not drawing that much. The game was a one-off event akin to a cheaper final or semi-final playoff game that had months to sell. So there really is no comparing.

    I am curious to see if TFC advances where they will play their semi-final and possible final if they make it. Rogers has those temporary seats used for the bills game series they could possibility add in either endzone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulder View Post
    Nice to how full it was, I don't get Sportsnet at home So I only kept up to date on Twitter.

    I'm curious to see where the approx 5,000 empty seats were. My assumption is 500 level end zones.
    I'm also happy to see that most comments thus from TFC fans that I've found don't slag the Argos for not drawing that much. The game was a one-off event akin to a cheaper final or semi-final playoff game that had months to sell. So there really is no comparing.

    I am curious to see if TFC advances where they will play their semi-final and possible final if they make it. Rogers has those temporary seats used for the bills game series they could possibility add in either endzone.

    Well from the south endzone we can't see what is above us in the 500 level so I don't know whether there were empty seats there or not. There were some empty seats in the 500 level beneath where the hotel rooms start near or adjacent to the jumbotron. I think there were some scattered in the upper eons of the 500 level as well. Also, there were empty seats on the 100 level in the corners of the north endzone, but those seats aren't ideal for football or soccer. There is room for temporary seating in our endzone.

    There was one mildly amusing moment during the game where there was a fight in the stands (only one I saw) in Section 120 and there was a cop at the top of Section 119 just chatting away with the security guard, both oblivious to the going-ons in the section beside them. Granted, nobody tried to get the cop's attention, but I still was shaking my head after that one. Don't misconstrue by statement though, the crowd was generally and in all other regards well behaved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ticats85 View Post
    Even though im not a Argo fan it makes me sad to see TFC with 40 000+ for a game at skydome,
    It doesn't make me sad to see another Toronto team successfully fill the Rogers Centre with people. It makes me sad that every Argo home game isn't packed full like it was last night. I really hope there is a way that can be turned around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ticats85 View Post
    I guess having David Beckham in the game helps ticket sales.
    It does help but they announced over 35K tickets were sold only two days after Beckham resigned with LA. They also priced the tickets well.

    Quote Originally Posted by bender View Post
    David Beckham is unattached to a club and up until last week almost had a deal to play in France. The majority of tickets sold so far have been to season ticket holders and people looking hard enough for access to presale. General public tickets only went on sale yesterday. The majority of season ticket holders either know he no longer has a contract with L.A, or don't care whether he is there or not. So far, I don't think I can say his name has brought any meaningful impact to this game to date.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ticats85 View Post
    Im watching the game right now i find it humorous how excited the fans are to watch a game so boring. I just don't get it all the fans are freaking out to watch nothing happen.
    I find it humorous that you would be watching a game that you feel is so boring. The people at the game didn't seem to find it boring, perhaps because like you said they're fans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ticats85 View Post
    Let me guess the final score of this game will be 1-0 or 0-0. Not a fan of soccer
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    Well guess i was wrong about the score
    Yes you were. It was a 2-2 draw final score.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Unfortunately, the higher camera really shows how terrible the turf looks. Some of the football lines hide things, but boy does it look amateur tonight.
    I never noticed it until I posted this picture here but Invader mentioned it before here.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Pretty good game so far. How does rogers security permit all the streamers thrown at Becks? They would kick you out of an Argo game for much less than that.
    I'm not a fan of streamers being thrown at players. I'm glad that has stopped at BMO Field.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    I would think that this would be considered, as they say in soccer, a disappointing result for TFC. You have to win your home game in this situation and you can't allow the road team to score two goals. If I am not mistaken, if L.A. even gets a 0-0 or 1-1 draw in the rematch at home, they will advance and TFC's greatest moment will come to an end.
    You are correct. We need to win with at least 3 goals because away goals are worth more. It was disappointing to end up with a draw so late in the game especially since TFC seemed to be the better team on the pitch last night.

    Quote Originally Posted by argolio View Post
    And I think his team scored the tying goal right after that.
    Yes, unfortunatley Landon Donovan scored off of Beckham's corner kick.

    Quote Originally Posted by argomANIA View Post
    I'm not sure that it was Rogers Security. Looked like maybe MLSE brought in their own guys.
    As far as I know Rogers Security was running the show and the head of BMO Field was there as a consultant, however there may have been a mix of security I'm not 100% sure.
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    There were a bunch of people around with black shirts on with the MLSE logos on the back. They might not have necessarily been there serving as security, but they were obviously there in some capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argofan87 View Post
    But, North American sports also do not have the "supporters group" tradition that soccer has.
    This is something I think the Argonauts need to emulate, actually. I believe the team, with the help of key ST holders, could promote the creation of groups similar to the Red Patch Boys, U Section and so on. The Ticats already have it to a minor extent with the Box J Boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    This is something I think the Argonauts need to emulate, actually. I believe the team, with the help of key ST holders, could promote the creation of groups similar to the Red Patch Boys, U Section and so on. The Ticats already have it to a minor extent with the Box J Boys.
    Well the key to that is getting more youthful and enthusiastic fans out to the games. That's the description for the Red Patch Boys and U-Sector. The problem is, as we know, that many of the younger people in Toronto are of the "pro-NFL, anti-CFL" department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argofan87 View Post
    There were a bunch of people around with black shirts on with the MLSE logos on the back. They might not have necessarily been there serving as security, but they were obviously there in some capacity.
    Cool, I didn't even notice them. It makes sense as they are used to that type of crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Cool, I didn't even notice them. It makes sense as they are used to that type of crowd.
    I, for one, am not shocked by that

    BTW, the usher who normally works 121 for us (Mulder knows ) was working 113 or something yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argofan87 View Post
    I, for one, am not shocked by that

    BTW, the usher who normally works 121 for us (Mulder knows ) was working 113 or something yesterday.
    You mean the one who accused me of putting my friends daughter over the railings, even though I didn't, and even though the dad who was sitting right beside me said I didn't as well? The incident that got me kicked out, and the security said they had me on camera drinking, for which I had one at the game, that you bought for me because you owed me for something?

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    Yeah him...the dude with the accent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argofan87 View Post
    Yeah him...the dude with the accent.
    Well hopefully he learned a thing or two last night.

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    I have my doubts about that.

    I for one will be very interested to see how Rogers intends to enforce the "no flag" rule this upcoming season.

    Unfortunately, whereas, the BMO security staff might've been on hand to "consult," the Argos have no such equivalent, do they unless they want to find whoever worked security at Exhibition Stadium in the 1970's.

    Clearly, Rogers Centre couldn't treat the Toronto FC crowd the same way that they treat the Blue Jays or Argo crowd, nobody did anything and that's the thing. We Argo fans aren't at the level of enthusiasm as Toronto FC fans, yet, we'd have the Rogers KGB on us in an instant!

    The problems we have encountered in the endzone are numerous. Aside, from the problems that some individuals have had with security, there is also the issue of who is sitting in our section. I think we've ended up with a lot of the "comps" in our section where the people aren't necessarily that into the game. I believe that when someone buys a ticket for a Toronto FC game in supporters section, he or she is warned on the ticket that as a supporters section that the enthusiasm will be amped up a notch and that he or she will find himself standing for the game. Ideally, that's probably what we'd want for the south endzone at Argo games, but we need the numbers to create that kind of situation as well as the understanding that Rogers Centre would treat us appropriately if and when such an atmosphere is created in that area of the stadium.

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    Got the details on the game from Rob M. Sounds like everyone had a good time! Good job T-Bone!

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