2022 Draft

[Shatto]

If Tre Ford gets an NFL invite, they would be looking to turn him into a receiver, in all likelihood. He might well want to choose the CFL, realizing he would have a much better chance of getting a shot at QB up here. Reminds me of years ago when black QB's had to come to the CFL in order to play QB. Just can't see the NFL giving a U sport QB an opportunity at that position. If he did sign with the Argos, there might be a reasonable chance his brother might join him, given the chance.

There was an group interview recently with QB's Ealey, Allan and Ford. They talked about the difficulties black QB's had in the States back when. One of Ealey or Allan mentioned the present day difficulties Canadian, especially U sport QB's have, in being given a fair shot at the position today. It was a passing remark but it hit home, when I heard the comment. Hopefully, things will change.

[paulwoods13]

He might well want to choose the CFL, realizing he would have a much better chance of getting a shot at QB up here.

Oh now you have done it. :->

[OV Argo]

If Tre Ford gets an NFL invite, they would be looking to turn him into a receiver, in all likelihood. He might well want to choose the CFL, realizing he would have a much better chance of getting a shot at QB up here. Reminds me of years ago when black QB's had to come to the CFL in order to play QB. Just can't see the NFL giving a U sport QB an opportunity at that position. If he did sign with the Argos, there might be a reasonable chance his brother might join him, given the chance.

There was an group interview recently with QB's Ealey, Allan and Ford. They talked about the difficulties black QB's had in the States back when. One of Ealey or Allan mentioned the present day difficulties Canadian, especially U sport QB's have, in being given a fair shot at the position today. It was a passing remark but it hit home, when I heard the comment. Hopefully, things will change.

Hopefully, but when ?


Many CFL moons ago, Canadian QB Bob Torrance was given a shot with the Ticats, to replace American starter Don McPherson (can't recall if it was due to injury or the fact that McPherson was terrible (41% completion % & 6 TDs to 21 INTs on the season) ); and McPherson commented on how Torrance seemed to be facing the same kind of bias or pressure that African American QBs faced from the NFL. That was 1993. Good for Chuck & Damon speaking up recently, but it's been decades and same old CFL on this file.

The NFL has changed to allow more black QBs to get chances, and to look at smaller, athletic QBs (who might have only been given a CFL look back when) - guys like Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray have excelled in the NFL. So, actually, Tre Ford might have as good a hope as getting an NFL look at QB IF a team recognized him as a fast, athletic QB but also one with a good passing arm (typically the NFL's standard opinion of Canadian trained players is ultra condescending - "raw" is often trotted out - but maybe some minds are changing down there?)

When is the CFL going to "change" ? Ever heard of Adam Sinagra from long ago (last year's draft) ? ;o)

[Argo57]

Hopefully, but when ?


Many CFL moons ago, Canadian QB Bob Torrance was given a shot with the Ticats, to replace American starter Don McPherson (can't recall if it was due to injury or the fact that McPherson was terrible (41% completion % & 6 TDs to 21 INTs on the season) ); and McPherson commented on how Torrance seemed to be facing the same kind of bias or pressure that African American QBs faced from the NFL. That was 1993. Good for Chuck & Damon speaking up recently, but it's been decades and same old CFL on this file.

The NFL has changed to allow more black QBs to get chances, and to look at smaller, athletic QBs (who might have only been given a CFL look back when) - guys like Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray have excelled in the NFL. So, actually, Tre Ford might have as good a hope as getting an NFL look at QB IF a team recognized him as a fast, athletic QB but also one with a good passing arm (typically the NFL's standard opinion of Canadian trained players is ultra condescending - "raw" is often trotted out - but maybe some minds are changing down there?)

When is the CFL going to "change" ? Ever heard of Adam Sinagra from long ago (last year's draft) ? ;o)

Haven't heard of Adam Sinagra but his great grandpa Frank was a hell of a singer.😁

[OV Argo]

Haven't heard of Adam Sinagra but his great grandpa Frank was a hell of a singer.

A huge majority of CFL fans likely never heard of Tre Ford either; but maybe some are fans of his guitar playing Aunt Lita ?

[Argo57]

I wonder if the Ford brothers drop in the draft due to potential interest down south after both posting impressive results in Buffalo?

https://3downnation.com/2022/03/17/c...nfl-attention/

[j-ski]

I wonder if the Ford brothers drop in the draft due to potential interest down south after both posting impressive results in Buffalo?

https://3downnation.com/2022/03/17/c...nfl-attention/

I don't think it will effect his CFL draft position. The odds of him sticking in the NFL are pretty low.

[OV Argo]

I don't think it will effect his CFL draft position. The odds of him sticking in the NFL are pretty low.

Perhaps; but not so sure about that. An NFL team who wants a mobile QB as even a change of pace or for certain packages or the odd wildcat type play might take a liking to Ford's skill set. Chris Strevler has made it and played down there. Might be a different story if he was just a running QB in U Sports ball, but hardly the case - his passing stats were excellent overall and his 2018 season was off the charts outstanding for passing in Canadian college ball.

Even an NFL mini camp invite is a foot in the door and who knows. A CFL team will perhaps think twice about drafting him if he gets an NFL call. Not that he was going to be a high CFL draft pick anyhow, IMO. Rather see him get an NFL shot than treated like an "athlete" with no real shot at QB by the typical CFL deep thinkers.

[jerrym]

Love to see Tre Ford get a meaningful shot, preferably with the Argos obviously, but with any team if necessary.

[OV Argo]

Love to see Tre Ford get a meaningful shot, preferably with the Argos obviously, but with any team if necessary.

There are several teams that IMO have serious need for QB competition for TC - Argos for sure, Bombers, Ticats

I remain very skeptical that Ford will get a meaningful CFL shot, but we shall see; and if he gets any sort of NFL call, likely will not be going to a CFL TC.

[Shatto]

Now the combine is over, the attention, naturally will be on the upcoming draft. The Argos are in the fortunate position of having excellent Canadian depth both in quality and quantity. There are some areas that might need some attention, however. Having the 6th, 10th and 16th selections should enable the team to add appropriate talent

DB-if Colquhoun doesn't return, the team could use some additional talent at DB. Tyrell Ford with his outstanding speed, showed very well in the combine and looked very good in the one on ones.

RB-with Harris at RB the team might want to have a Canadian backup on the roster. Machart shows some excellent quickness but IMO a better choice would be Adeboboye, who has the strength, size and speed to complement Harris. The one problem could be his performance at the combine, might mean he will go before the Argos have a chance to select him.

OL-the team already have some excellent backups, who will be anxious the fight for a starting role (Richards/Churchill/Giffen/Lawrence/Zamora) but a team can never have too many good OL men. They might be able to steal, probably the best pound for pound OL player in the draft, in Rodeem Brown. At a shade over 6' and 280 lbs, teams might be hesitant to use a first 3 round selection to pick him. He might fool them all and eventually end up being an all star performer.

Anyway just a few thoughts about the draft.

[j-ski]

The good news for CFL fans is that I think some good CFL potential players will not be going to NFL camps because of their combine numbers.

I don't think the Philpots, Dionte Knight or Zack Fry will get NFL looks.

I think the Ford brothers, Noah Zerr and Tyrell Richards will still get NFL looks.

[OV Argo]

Argo draft pick - DE Luiji Vilain - puts up an outstanding set of testing #s at a Pro Day - sounds like he is a rising star in NFL draft circles = unlikely to show up for the Argo this TC (and maybe never).

= Argos should IMO think of using their 1st pick on one of the DEs from a very good crop for this CFL draft.

[j-ski]

Mock draft:

https://www.cfperspective.com/podcas...ine-mock-draft

[j-ski]

Mock Draft from CFPerspective:

https://twitter.com/CFPerspective/st...92921293725700

[OV Argo]

Argos sitting nice this draft with 3 of the top 15 picks (#s 6, 10, 15); and for a team that seems pretty deep in Canadian talent / depth already.

The status of a couple of top previous picks (Vilain & Doxtater) might be a factor in thinking here.

Can address several position areas if need be; and if Vilain & Doxtater are no shows, can go to those positions again.

Assuming they both draw some sort of NFL look (decent bet i think) - like to see the Argos go DE, safety and O-Line with those top 3 picks (and in that order- and good crop at both DE & safety in this draft (IMO), gives plenty of options).

[OV Argo]

Apparently, the new, ongoing CFL CBA talks are including a proposal that 3 veteran import players now can be classified as Nationals.

CFL teams would then only be saddled with having to go with just 4 Canadian starters. Not surprising the CFL roster pendulum keeps swinging that way - CFLPA now features a majority of American players, and only natural they would stick up for their guys; with CFL owners and GM types in full support it would seem.

Maybe the CFL draft could be reduced by a few rounds ?

The influx of talent and the level of play will jump fantastically of course = should lead to much bigger attendance and TV #s. Will there still be "ratio problems" and "ratio breakers" though ?

[j-ski]

Apparently, the new, ongoing CFL CBA talks are including a proposal that 3 veteran import players now can be classified as Nationals.

CFL teams would then only be saddled with having to go with just 4 Canadian starters. Not surprising the CFL roster pendulum keeps swinging that way - CFLPA now features a majority of American players, and only natural they would stick up for their guys; with CFL owners and GM types in full support it would seem.

Maybe the CFL draft could be reduced by a few rounds ?

The influx of talent and the level of play will jump fantastically of course = should lead to much bigger attendance and TV #s. Will there still be "ratio problems" and "ratio breakers" though ?

I really wish I could start a new Canadian only league. A place where U Sports QBs could play after University. The CFL just seems to get more anti-Canadian each year.

[OV Argo]

I really wish I could start a new Canadian only league. A place where U Sports QBs could play after University. The CFL just seems to get more anti-Canadian each year.

Yeah; I think we've talked about that before - a real Canadian pro league; not gonna happen though - unless a billionaire all of a sudden is keen on the idea (a big Canadian football fan winning the 70 mil in Lotto Max is probably not enough); or, unless, the CFL's continued Americans first ways continue (getting worse all the time and 4 downs and other $uck-ups to American football may be next/soon) and possibly provides the spark - somehow/somewhere - there are smaller pro leagues for other sports.

Dare to dream; start with a 6 team loop - teams in Moncton, Quebec City, Montreal, Ottawa, Kingston & London; get Via Rail as the main sponsor and try to encourage fan / tourist travel to the games. All coaches & players must have played in the Canadian football system before. 12 game season - weekends only - June to August with play-offs in Sept. Would really need a game of the week televised to get some attention/prestige, and that might be very tough to make happen ?

[jerrym]

Tre Ford has already been contacted by 24 NFL teams. Time for the CFL to wake up to Canadian QB talent.