BC Lions Thread

[Will]

Starting a fresh one as the other thread went haywire.

[jerrym]

The Lions lost out on former 2019 Argo WR Derel Walker who the Lions pursued with a $275,000 offer, but he re-signed with the Elks.

[jerrym]

Rider American DB Lucchiez Purifoy has committed to returning to the BC Lions where he began his career in 2016.

[ArgoRavi]

The Lions lost out on former 2019 Argo WR Derel Walker who the Lions pursued with a $275,000 offer, but he re-signed with the Elks.

Walker, as good as he can be, isn't worth that kind of money.

[OV Argo]

Walker, as good as he can be, isn't worth that kind of money.

BC already has Burnham & Whitehead re-signed to big contracts, plus they were able to retain an excellent young Canadian receiver in Cottoy; they had no room for Walker unless he would sign real cheap.

The RedBlacks & BC had huge need to improve after real bad seasons and makes sense for them to go after a bunch of big FA names; the EE were as bad or worse, but ego-Jones will likely have his ideas about new talent - like re-cycling a bunch of his old washed-up vet guys or signing all sorts of new American "athlete" talent. Really looking forward to Jones' CFL draft.

[jerrym]

BC already has Burnham & Whitehead re-signed to big contracts, plus they were able to retain an excellent young Canadian receiver in Cottoy; they had no room for Walker unless he would sign real cheap.

The Lions also have 28 year old Shaq Johnson who was second with 597 receiving yards in 2019 among Canadian receivers and third among Canadian WRs in total receiving yards between 2017 and 2019.

[Will]

The Lions also have 28 year old Shaq Johnson who was second with 597 receiving yards in 2019 among Canadian receivers and third among Canadian WRs in total receiving yards between 2017 and 2019.

I believe Johnson is a pending free agent.

[Will]

I saw somewhere that the Lions will likely sign O'Connor.

The Argos' options at backup QB are getting thinner.

[OV Argo]

BC goes nuts in free agency; some big adds, especially to their D where they needed help: Delvin Breaux for the D-backfield; Menard & Richardson for the D-Line; versatile DB Purifoy as well. *** edit - DE Matt Betts now too.

Had to pay-out lots i would guess to retain their 3 receivers - Burnham, Whitehead, Cottoy.

O'Connor a real interesting signing: #2 behind Rourke ? - could be, but I'll believe it when I see it if they turn to O'Connor next if Rourke gets hurt or plays poorly.

Theory must be to go el-cheapo with 2 Canadian QBs and surround them with as much talent as possible ?


Read Shaq Johnson signed with Ottawa (to go along with other receiver adds: Darvin Adams, J. Acklin, L. Noel = Wow - what a make-over at one position group - like they did early as a new team - and got them to a GC); BC might think of drafting one of the Philpot twins at receiver - to continue the BC Lions Philpot legacy.

[AngeloV]

In 3DN's weekly insider talk an insider claims that Matthew Betts signed with BC for $170k. If this is true, no wonder American players get pissed off that some Canadian players make more than them. Taking productivity into the equation, than Ja'Gared Davis is grossly underpaid at 230k. Seriously, based on his play last season, he shouldn't have received more than the league minimum. But hey, Canadian players aren't respected in their own league according to some.

Betts' career to this date:
19 games, 13 defensive tackles and 2 sacks.

Smallish sample size, and he might prove to be worth that contract at some point, but definitely nowhere near that today.

https://3downnation.com/2022/02/16/i...agent-signing/

[OV Argo]

Canadian players held/restricted to minimum wage when they enter the pro league in their own country.

The highest paid - by far - position in the league, QB, has been reserved for Americans only by GOBs for CFL decades.

But boy-o-boy some of these uppity Canadians end up getting to make more than minimum CFL wage; Betts was one of the most decorated Canadian DEs ever out of college ball, and garnered an NFL try-out with the Bears; he has been IMO a huge disappointment in his CFL playing time thus far, but maybe BC sees way more potential. OMG - a "reported" 170K via 3 Down gossip - that's unacceptable / outrageous - LOL.

Meanwhile, ego-Jones is out there signing old buddies Duron Carter, Adarius Bowman & Manny Arcenaux types - guess what their passports say? And total stiffs like Dom Davis rate umpteen CFL opportunities while the very best Canadian U Sports ball QBs get ignored by GOBs year after year after year.

But cry-me a river Americans first CFL fans; the hapless CFL GMs are just forced to pay huge bucks to scrub Canadian talent - a Canadian O_lineman makes 20K more than an American counterpart ??? - OMG no !!!. Get rid of the ratio and let the Americans running the league show even more favortism to their guys than they have for decades. Just radical. LOL

[AngeloV]

Canadian players held/restricted to minimum wage when they enter the pro league in their own country.

The highest paid - by far - position in the league, QB, has been reserved for Americans only by GOBs for CFL decades.

But boy-o-boy some of these uppity Canadians end up getting to make more than minimum CFL wage; Betts was one of the most decorated Canadian DEs ever out of college ball, and garnered an NFL try-out with the Bears; he has been IMO a huge disappointment in his CFL playing time thus far, but maybe BC sees way more potential. OMG - a "reported" 170K via 3 Down gossip - that's unacceptable / outrageous - LOL.

Meanwhile, ego-Jones is out there signing old buddies Duron Carter, Adarius Bowman & Manny Arcenaux types - guess what their passports say? And total stiffs like Dom Davis rate umpteen CFL opportunities while the very best Canadian U Sports ball QBs get ignored by GOBs year after year after year.

But cry-me a river Americans first CFL fans; the hapless CFL GMs are just forced to pay huge bucks to scrub Canadian talent - a Canadian O_lineman makes 20K more than an American counterpart ??? - OMG no !!!. Get rid of the ratio and let the Americans running the league show even more favortism to their guys than they have for decades. Just radical. LOL

Such a crock. American QBs do not make crap until the are proven starters. Chad Kelly signed for 67k if he makes the team. But I expect no less from someone that refers to prove players like AC Leonard as overrated. He was good from the moment Jones put him at DE, unlike your Laval boy.

Regarding your always quick to dismiss salaries to support your conspiracy theories, do you really think these reporters do not have sources that know these things? Whether it be agents, management from teams or someone in the PA, these sources are usually correct.

[OV Argo]

Such a crock. American QBs do not make crap until the are proven starters. Chad Kelly signed for 67k if he makes the team. But I expect no less from someone that refers to prove players like AC Leonard as overrated. He was good from the moment Jones put him at DE, unlike your Laval boy.

Regarding your always quick to dismiss salaries to support your conspiracy theories, do you really think these reporters do not have sources that know these things? Whether it be agents, management from teams or someone in the PA, these sources are usually correct.

Hey, keep on $ucking-up to Americans first / CFL GOB ways; it's what you've been taught - stick with it.

I wonder where/how the Argos are going to deal with the ever popular "ratio problem" coming up - to get to 7 only need apply? Harris to start at RB? Maybe Robbie Smith or Acheampong could be banished to the bench while the team signs some washed-up CFL vet Americans or some ex-NFL resume superstars to play instead. Gittens could be a solid "depth" receiver to make room for Speedy B to play; and I really wish they could go with 3 superstar import O-linemen (sorry don't have any names, we'll just assume) as starters to guarantee the offence is so much stronger. Such a problem/quandry.

[argolio]

And total stiffs like Dom Davis rate umpteen CFL opportunities while the very best Canadian U Sports ball QBs get ignored by GOBs year after year after year.

But cry-me a river Americans first CFL fans; the hapless CFL GMs are just forced to pay huge bucks to scrub Canadian talent - a Canadian O_lineman makes 20K more than an American counterpart ??? - OMG no !!!. Get rid of the ratio and let the Americans running the league show even more favortism to their guys than they have for decades. Just radical. LOL

Out of curiosity, how many Canadian college QBs were multi-year starters during the CFL's golden era before the Americans supposedly took over running the league? Russ Jackson and...anyone else?

[AngeloV]

Hey, keep on $ucking-up to Americans first / CFL GOB ways; it's what you've been taught - stick with it.

I wonder where/how the Argos are going to deal with the ever popular "ratio problem" coming up - to get to 7 only need apply? Harris to start at RB? Maybe Robbie Smith or Acheampong could be banished to the bench while the team signs some washed-up CFL vet Americans or some ex-NFL resume superstars to play instead. Gittens could be a solid "depth" receiver to make room for Speedy B to play; and I really wish they could go with 3 superstar import O-linemen (sorry don't have any names, we'll just assume) as starters to guarantee the offence is so much stronger. Such a problem/quandry.

Unlike you, I don't suck up to any players first based on nationality. I go strictly on merit, and if they don't become really good players, I don't cry that the system is holding them back. It's called being open minded. Nobody cheers for Canadians more than I do. I'm just not ignorant to the fact that many get paid more based on status rather than merit.

[OV Argo]

Out of curiosity, how many Canadian college QBs were multi-year starters during the CFL's golden era before the Americans supposedly took over running the league? Russ Jackson and...anyone else?

Define CFL "golden era".

Americans don't run the CFL ??? - you're serious ? Time for you to do a quick check of CFL coaching and key football personnel decision making staffs and report back with percentage of Americans to Canadians there; then factor in the last 5 CFL decades or so. "Supposedly" ??? LMFAO


Ever heard of Joe Krol; Don Getty; Frank Cosentino ? no? - Toe Blake, Eddie Shore ?

Now look at the last 6 decades list of Hec Creighton or Vanier winning and/or CIS QB seasonal and career passing leaders and tell us how many of them you saw get a legit CFL try-out at QB.

[argolio]

Define CFL "golden era".

Americans don't run the CFL ??? - you're serious ? Time for you to do a quick check of CFL coaching and key football personnel decision making staffs and report back with percentage of Americans to Canadians there; then factor in the last 5 CFL decades or so. "Supposedly" ??? LMFAO


Ever heard of Joe Krol; Don Getty; Frank Cosentino ? no? - Toe Blake, Eddie Shore ?

Now look at the last 6 decades list of Hec Creighton or Vanier winning and/or CIS QB seasonal and career passing leaders and tell us how many of them you saw get a legit CFL try-out at QB.

I said the CFL, which means the end of the IRFU/WIFU era starting in 1958, or even 1954 when BC joined WIFU, which more or less was the era when teams adopted pro-style offences, QBs changed from being mostly runners to passers, passing rules were liberalized (screen passes were not legal until the 50s), substitutions were legalized, coaches were allowed to send in plays (illegal prior to 1955) and the league became fully professional as we now define it.

Getty was primarily a backup or split time with Jackie Parker, but I'll give you that. Cosentino was never a multi-year starter. There was so little passing in Krol's era that they didn't even keep those stats. Toe Blake and Eddie Shore??

[jerrym]

BC has added Henry Burris as an offensive consultant after two years with the Chicago Bears.

https://www.bclions.com/2022/03/15/s...ve-consultant/

[jerrym]

The Lions have signed Americans WR Shelton Gibson who played 20 games with the Philadelphia Eagles, RB Michael Warren who was in TC with the Eagles, and K/P Nathan Hierlihy who played in the Spring League.


https://www.bclions.com/2022/02/16/l...ichael-warren/

https://www.bclions.com/2022/03/31/l...o-camp-roster/

[ArgoRavi]

BC has added Henry Burris as an offensive consultant after two years with the Chicago Bears.

https://www.bclions.com/2022/03/15/s...ve-consultant/

Unfortunately, Burris's stint in B.C. was a very short one as he is back in the NFL.