New BC Lions thread

[argolio]

Warren Moon - 6 years in the CFL and 17 in the NFL

Too many GOBs still had NFL jobs back in the 70s, which prevented Moon from starting his pro career there as his physical talent warranted. And I mean the real, racist kind of GOBs, not fake ones. If he was a decade younger, we wouldn't have seen him in the CFL.

[bannedforlife]

Here's a couple I remember from my childhood:

John Sciarra played two years for the Lions and six years for the Eagles. Memories are a funny thing, I remember him as a QB but he barely played there after being the starting QB at UCLA.

In 1976 he was 8/31 passing for the Lions which might explain the below:

Wikipedia - John Sciarra signed a two-year contract with the BC Lions of the Canadian Football League on May 26, 1976. He was converted to Slotback early in the season and had 34 receptions for 563 yards. He earned the CFL's Most Outstanding Rookie Award in 1976.

Sciarra played 6 years with the Eagles (1978-1983) as Defensive Back, Punt Returner, and was named Most Valuable Player for Special Teams in 1979 and 1980

Joe Pisarcik played three seasons for the Stamps, three for the Giants, and five for the Eagles. He was the starting QB for his first two years with the Giants until Phil Simms took over. Pisarcik was backup to Ron Jaworski for the Eagles.

Wikipedia - He began his NFL career with the New York Giants and is best remembered for his role in the November 19, 1978, game where the Giants, ahead 17–12 with only seconds to play and their opponent out of time-outs, lost after his handoff (a play called by offensive coordinator Bob Gibson over Pisarcik's objections) to Larry Csonka was fumbled and returned for a touchdown by Herman Edwards of the Philadelphia Eagles.

The play has since been referred to as "The Fumble" by Giants fans and "The Miracle at the Meadowlands" by Eagles fans, and it was instrumental in making the Quarterback kneel (also known as "taking a knee") a routine play for running down the clock at the end of a game.

[AngeloV]

I'm really happy for Rourke. Anyone that suggested he should not take the opportunity is not a realist. I hope he can turn this into a $100M + career.

[Argo57]

Shawn Lemon sign with the Lions.
Still a very effective player.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/26/t...-a-third-time/

[ArgoRavi]

Shawn Lemon sign with the Lions.
Still a very effective player.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/26/t...-a-third-time/

He is but he will turn into the aging version of Charleston Hughes one of these years and it's always a gamble when that will be. I think that the Stamps are gambling that will happen in 2023 while the Lions are gambling that it won't.

[Argo57]

He is but he will turn into the aging version of Charleston Hughes one of these years and it's always a gamble when that will be. I think that the Stamps are gambling that will happen in 2023 while the Lions are gambling that it won't.

Although not a huge risk with one year contracts Ravi.

[AngeloV]

Although not a huge risk with one year contracts Ravi.

An no risk at all if there isn’t a sizeable signing bonus, which is very doubtful in this case.

[ArgoRavi]

An no risk at all if there isn’t a sizeable signing bonus, which is very doubtful in this case.

The free agent money has pretty much dried up long before now so Lemon likely received a small raise, if any, and not much of a bonus.

[ArgoRavi]

Things are looking a little bleaker for Nathan Rourke in Jacksonville. The original narrative from the likes of Farhan Lalji and Dave Naylor was that Jacksonville's backup QB, CJ Beathard, was a free agent and would not necessarily be brought back which would leave a clear opening for Rourke to compete for the #2 spot with the Jaguars. Subsequently, the Jaguars re-signed Beathard to a new contract that includes $2 million in guaranteed money. Anyone who follows the NFL knows that giving someone $2 million in guaranteed money means that they are very much in your plans. The Jaguars brass has also been recently talking up Beathard in a big way so it will take an extraordinary performance for Rourke to become the #2 QB there. More likely, he will be battling it out for the #3/Practice Roster QB spot with whomever else the Jaguars sign or draft.

https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/duval...g-c-j-beathard

https://3downnation.com/2023/03/07/j...qbs-on-roster/

[OV Argo]

Things are looking a little bleaker for Nathan Rourke in Jacksonville. The original narrative from the likes of Farhan Lalji and Dave Naylor was that Jacksonville's backup QB, CJ Beathard, was a free agent and would not necessarily be brought back which would leave a clear opening for Rourke to compete for the #2 spot with the Jaguars. Subsequently, the Jaguars re-signed Beathard to a new contract that includes $2 million in guaranteed money. Anyone who follows the NFL knows that giving someone $2 million in guaranteed money means that they are very much in your plans. The Jaguars brass has also been recently talking up Beathard in a big way so it will take an extraordinary performance for Rourke to become the #2 QB there. More likely, he will be battling it out for the #3/Practice Roster QB spot with whomever else the Jaguars sign or draft.

https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/duval...g-c-j-beathard

https://3downnation.com/2023/03/07/j...qbs-on-roster/

Yeah, not sure I agree with "bleak" but so much for the talk he would only sign down there to be a #2. I think he's just glad to get a foot in the door anywhere down there, and maybe he has a great TC or injuries strike the other QBs, and he somehow gets on a roster and maybe plays some - wouldn't count on that though.

Could see a scenario where he is stuck as the Jags #3 project, which leads to no playing time and then no other NFL teams show any interest (why would they - he could have signed with a team that has serious QB needs to compete right away, but obviously nobody had that interest) ... and then he gets frustrated as a competitor who really wants to play, and so returns to the CFL - wouldn't count on that either.

[Shatto]

Yeah, not sure I agree with "bleak" but so much for the talk he would only sign down there to be a #2. I think he's just glad to get a foot in the door anywhere down there, and maybe he has a great TC or injuries strike the other QBs, and he somehow gets on a roster and maybe plays some - wouldn't count on that though.

Could see a scenario where he is stuck as the Jags #3 project, which leads to no playing time and then no other NFL teams show any interest (why would they - he could have signed with a team that has serious QB needs to compete right away, but obviously nobody had that interest) ... and then he gets frustrated as a competitor who really wants to play, and so returns to the CFL - wouldn't count on that either.

If the team does not select a QB in the upcoming NFL draft, Rourke will be in the comfortable position of being the # 3 QB albeit, on the P.R. But, that places him in a good position if one of the two QBs on the playing roster should sustain an injury. If the team is serious about Rourke, they will not draft a QB.

[AngeloV]

Things are looking a little bleaker for Nathan Rourke in Jacksonville. The original narrative from the likes of Farhan Lalji and Dave Naylor was that Jacksonville's backup QB, CJ Beathard, was a free agent and would not necessarily be brought back which would leave a clear opening for Rourke to compete for the #2 spot with the Jaguars. Subsequently, the Jaguars re-signed Beathard to a new contract that includes $2 million in guaranteed money. Anyone who follows the NFL knows that giving someone $2 million in guaranteed money means that they are very much in your plans. The Jaguars brass has also been recently talking up Beathard in a big way so it will take an extraordinary performance for Rourke to become the #2 QB there. More likely, he will be battling it out for the #3/Practice Roster QB spot with whomever else the Jaguars sign or draft.

https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/duval...g-c-j-beathard

https://3downnation.com/2023/03/07/j...qbs-on-roster/

But they waived another QB leaving then with only 3 on the roster. That’s good news for Rourke, not bad news. Beathard has done nothing over quite a few years in the league. I’m sure the Jags are hoping Rourke takes the #2 spot from him in TC.

[ArgoRavi]

But they waived another QB leaving then with only 3 on the roster. That’s good news for Rourke, not bad news. Beathard has done nothing over quite a few years in the league. I’m sure the Jags are hoping Rourke takes the #2 spot from him in TC.

Beathard is getting $2 million guaranteed while Rourke is getting $200k guaranteed. We shall see if they add another QB although I would be surprised if they didn't. I don't share your optimism, AV, that Rourke will get much of a chance to unseat Beathard, given the guaranteed money the latter is getting.

Also, one of Rourke's advocates in Jacksonville, Henry Burris, is no longer employed by that organization.

[Argo57]

Beathard is getting $2 million guaranteed while Rourke is getting $200k guaranteed. We shall see if they add another QB although I would be surprised if they didn't. I don't share your optimism, AV, that Rourke will get much of a chance to unseat Beathard, given the guaranteed money the latter is getting.

Also, one of Rourke's advocates in Jacksonville, Henry Burris, is no longer employed by that organization.

I agree Ravi.
The NFL is as cut throat as it gets, promises to compete for the number 2 job amount to nothing.
I think you may see Rourke back in Canada in a couple of years.

[AngeloV]

I agree Ravi.
The NFL is as cut throat as it gets, promises to compete for the number 2 job amount to nothing.
I think you may see Rourke back in Canada in a couple of years.

Possible, but I’m thinking no. I think he will be down south for a long time.

[AngeloV]

Beathard is getting $2 million guaranteed while Rourke is getting $200k guaranteed. We shall see if they add another QB although I would be surprised if they didn't. I don't share your optimism, AV, that Rourke will get much of a chance to unseat Beathard, given the guaranteed money the latter is getting.

Also, one of Rourke's advocates in Jacksonville, Henry Burris, is no longer employed by that organization.

No offence Ravi, but I think this is personal with you. You were against Rourke taking his shot down south from day 1. He is very young. There is a good chance the Jags will keep him around all year as #3 while looking to move him up to #2 next year. There is also a chance that they take the loss on Beathard and release him or put him on IR. Their starter is on a rookie deal,so they don’t have a lot of money tied up at QB. In any event, it’s a chance he has to take. He would be 1 injury away from an opportunity to show his talents to the rest of the league and a really big pay day.

[ArgoRavi]

No offence Ravi, but I think this is personal with you. You were against Rourke taking his shot down south from day 1. He is very young. There is a good chance the Jags will keep him around all year as #3 while looking to move him up to #2 next year. There is also a chance that they take the loss on Beathard and release him or put him on IR. Their starter is on a rookie deal,so they don’t have a lot of money tied up at QB. In any event, it’s a chance he has to take. He would be 1 injury away from an opportunity to show his talents to the rest of the league and a really big pay day.

I have definitely gone against the prevailing wisdom on this one and it's not because I don't believe that Rourke isn't capable of having success in the NFL. I just don't happen to think that this is the chance he was looking for, but time will tell.

I do recall that the narrative being pushed by the likes of Naylor, Lalji, and the 3DownNation people was that Rourke wanted a legitimate chance at a #2 position this year and that seems unlikely.

[bannedforlife]

BC Lions offer ticket, bus packages for Interior and Island fans
Lions courting Interior fans
Rob Gibson castanet.net March 13, 2023

BC Lions fans who live in the Interior or on Vancouver Island now have a new way to watch their team.

For the first time, the BC Lions have launched a new six-game season ticket package for fans on Vancouver Island and in the Interior.

“We’re thrilled to provide our fans from the Island and Interior with increased accessibility to our home games,” said Lions president Duane Vienneau.

The packages consist of all six of the club's weekend 4 p.m. kickoffs at BC Place: the home opener June 17 vs. Edmonton, July 9 vs. Montreal, July 22 vs. Saskatchewan, August 12 vs. Calgary, August 26 vs. Hamilton and September 16 vs. Ottawa.

Ticket prices for the packages start at $220 for Interior Lions fans and $170 for Island fans. All packages include roundtrip bus transportation from Traxx Coach Lines and fans can depart from either Kelowna or Kamloops. Island fans will be picked up from both the Horseshoe Bay and Tsawwassen Ferry terminals for the journey to BC Place.

“The response for similar bus and ticket packages for last year’s Western Semi-Final was amazing and it gave us the idea that our fans from different regions of British Columbia would welcome a regular season package. The Lions truly are the province’s team.”

[Stevoman]

I love the Lions new uniforms...come on Argos when do we get our stripes back???

[gilthethrill]

I love the Lions new uniforms...come on Argos when do we get our stripes back???

No doubt the Argos uniforms need upgraded to say the least. As for the Lions new uniforms, seems teams in all sports are leaving traditional colours and going all black. To me it seems unimaginative, as the 9 team CFL now has 3 teams with black as their main colour, but fans seem to be eating it up.