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    What this thread needs is more talk and care about a mediocre QB who gives the ball away all the time like Dane Evans. Too bad there are just zero other QBs out there for CFL GMs and fans to get all worked up about. Damn, i wish the Argos could sign him or coulda made a pitch for a talent like Dom Davis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I think this is the only reason Hamilton is holding Dane Evans hostage rather than releasing a player they have no intention of keeping with a contract no team is willing to trade for. They don’t want him to come to Toronto until perhaps he misses all of training camp. Classless.
    There's little doubt this is what's going on. Ticats are tired of always losing, and determined not to screw up another home Grey Cup, so they are holding Evans hostage to prevent him from signing with their arch-rivals before camp opens. That way, he won't have months to get to know the playbook. This does not seem like a Steinauer-type move, but rather something coming from upstairs. IMO it will hurt the Cats in the future -- players notice which orgs treat players well when they leave, and which ones don't. The handling of Evans is in contrast to teams that release guys early, so they can latch on somewhere else while there's still money available. Regardless, I expect Evans will be an Argo in 2023.
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    [QUOTE=bluto;165573]If that's the case, I can't blame them. They're under no obligation to assist us. They could choose to be nice (if that were the case), but they're acting within the rules.

    And it isn't as if the Argos (or any other team) wouldn't have already reached out to Evans on the sly if they were interested in him... which strictly speaking is a no-no.[/QUOTE

    You are absolutely right, Hamilton is under no contractual obligation to release Evans. However, it is a tacky way of treating a player who has toiled for them. As Paul, has pointed out, players observe how teams treat players and this may eventually come back to haunt them. I may be wrong but I can't see Pinball acting in this manner.

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    If their treatment of Evans was to have an impact, it hasn't compromised their ability in the early days of the 2023 free agency period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    If their treatment of Evans was to have an impact, it hasn't compromised their ability in the early days of the 2023 free agency period.
    It might have an impact on players signing multi year extensions with them. Truthfully, I think it hurts the league in general. Just like releasing players a day before a bonus is do. Just a bad look. IMO, at the very least, all bonuses should be guaranteed. It would end this nonsense
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    It's in sharp contrast to how the Argos treated Collaros in 2014. They released him early, knowing he was leaving in free agency and probably knowing he would end up in Hamilton. Class gesture. Obviously there is a major difference in that Evans is still under contract. But the Ticats have made it clear he's done in Hamilton; even if Bo were to suddenly retire tomorrow, I don't see that bridge being unburned. So treat the man humanely by releasing him and allowing him to find another job, rather than leave him twisting for weeks or months.
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    I totally get it. And I'll grant that it is classy and it is kind. I'll even allow that the "what goes around comes around" view is wholly legitimate.

    But if I'm a General Manager, my remit is to kick the other team's ass. And being classy and kind isn't going to be part of it. If it looks like he's likely to go to a rival, then I sit him in the Pit of Despair for as long as I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Truthfully, I think it hurts the league in general. Just like releasing players a day before a bonus is do. Just a bad look. IMO, at the very least, all bonuses should be guaranteed. It would end this nonsense
    The league management could care less.It's part of the league's DNA.It's not changing anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkalbaniasGhost View Post
    The league management could care less.It's part of the league's DNA.It's not changing anytime soon.
    Even if there was a Commish who cared or got it and wanted to do something (not that clown Ambrosia), he likely could do nothing anyhow with the BOGoofs being able to cancel him (or muzzle him) ? So 5 or 6 more Doman types as owners would be required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    It might have an impact on players signing multi year extensions with them. Truthfully, I think it hurts the league in general. Just like releasing players a day before a bonus is do. Just a bad look. IMO, at the very least, all bonuses should be guaranteed. It would end this nonsense
    It's almost as if the players ought to have a union to deal with that sort of thing.
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    Chad Kelly and the boys at the Leafs game tonight. Great to see him in town through the off season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Chad Kelly and the boys at the Leafs game tonight. Great to see him in town through the off season.

    https://twitter.com/mapleleafs/statu...ZcLRTeb7UP5Cjg
    Kelly should be sporting a black alternative Leaf jersey that Bieber designed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilthethrill View Post
    Kelly should be sporting a black alternative Leaf jersey that Bieber designed.
    Don’t get me started on alternate jerseys in sports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Don’t get me started on alternate jerseys in sports.
    Especially for an iconic franchise like the Maple Leafs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Don’t get me started on alternate jerseys in sports.
    It should be simple. 2 jerseys…Home and Away, your team colours are your team colours….3rd jersey concept = black it seems.

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    Yeah, I'm about ready for the QB announcement...

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    Interesting. Cody Farjardo was on the Rod Pedersen show. He said 6 teams contacted his agent, and it came down to Montreal and Toronto. Chose Montreal for the best chance to start and noted the MBT unknown in Toronto.

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    If MBT doesn't return, the Argos have three options for competition for Kelly - Dane Evans, given that he can somehow be extracted from Hamilton, Michael O'Connor, and Antonio Pipkin. Given that they already chose Kelly over Pipkin in the last training camp, it's likely down to Evans or O'Connor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Don’t get me started on alternate jerseys in sports.
    Guess no one wants to hear about Newcastle United's "kit". Classic Black and White Stripes. Which they still have but now wear a green and white Saudi inspired kits because they're owned by Saudis. No historical ties to green whatsoever.
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