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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    IF it had to come down to the two, I'd take Fajardo as well; at least he has very good mobility / is a run threat - for an OC who could design a package for his skill set; Evans makes too many mistakes and then acts like a cry-baby.
    Just a reminder MBT has thrown his own share of temper tantrums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antwon View Post
    Just a reminder MBT has thrown his own share of temper tantrums.
    Yep; and i don't like that about him, either.

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    And now, 3 Down reporting on supposed trade rumors of Kelly to the green Riders? So, MBT returns, Kelly refuses to wait around as a back-up anymore and demands a trade to QB desperate Riders where he will get all sorts of attention in the football fishbowl there ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    And now, 3 Down reporting on supposed trade rumors of Kelly to the green Riders? So, MBT returns, Kelly refuses to wait around as a back-up anymore and demands a trade to QB desperate Riders where he will get all sorts of attention in the football fishbowl there ?
    Listen to the radio interview the article links to. Kelly is not demanding a trade. That article is lousy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Issues"Mcgee View Post
    Listen to the radio interview the article links to. Kelly is not demanding a trade. That article is lousy.
    3Down seems to be travelling down the “tabloid journalism” path more and more these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Agreed, I think a change of scenery would do Evans wonders.
    I think Paul was talking about Caleb Evans. I’m with you on Dane Evans.

    Paul, personally I don’t get where you think Arbuckle or Evans would be better than Fajardo. Must pre a personal preference here, but I would take Fajardo over both of them any day of the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I think Paul was talking about Caleb Evans. I’m with you on Dane Evans.

    Paul, personally I don’t get where you think Arbuckle or Evans would be better than Fajardo. Must pre a personal preference here, but I would take Fajardo over both of them any day of the week.
    No, I was referring to Dane, and yes, I think either guy would be better than Fajardo. I don't want Fajardo here, period. I'd take Caleb Evans, Shiltz, O'Connor or Prukop over him. I can't stand the guy, basically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    No, I was referring to Dane, and yes, I think either guy would be better than Fajardo. I don't want Fajardo here, period. I'd take Caleb Evans, Shiltz, O'Connor or Prukop over him. I can't stand the guy, basically.
    I’ll say this with all respect. You’re nuts. Dane Evans is the only one I would take, although I would like to see O’Connor get a shot. The rest are nowhere near as good as Fajardo. But your bias against him has come out with your last sentence, so I will take it with a grain of salt.
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    hard to warm up to Former Ticats playing for the ARRGOs because of the rivalry. Banks had some effective plays last year but if he messed up I would tell my son he was from Hamilton. Hope we don't sign Evans... hoping MBT comes back...or we develop someone new ... I am OK with Fajardo or any one of the other guys...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I’ll say this with all respect. You’re nuts. Dane Evans is the only one I would take, although I would like to see O’Connor get a shot. The rest are nowhere near as good as Fajardo. But your bias against him has come out with your last sentence, so I will take it with a grain of salt.
    The first online definition I found for "bias" was: "prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair." No reference to who is doing such "considering," but FTR I don't see any "unfairness" in my judgment that Fajardo is not a guy I'd want as my team's QB. I'd be comfortable calling it "aversion," certainly. I'm not actually disputing that Fajardo might be "better," on some level, than Caleb, Shiltz or Prukop, but that doesn't make me like him.
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    Well the other QB will NOT be BLM:

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    The first online definition I found for "bias" was: "prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair." No reference to who is doing such "considering," but FTR I don't see any "unfairness" in my judgment that Fajardo is not a guy I'd want as my team's QB. I'd be comfortable calling it "aversion," certainly. I'm not actually disputing that Fajardo might be "better," on some level, than Caleb, Shiltz or Prukop, but that doesn't make me like him.
    I was referencing your comment of “I can’t stand the guy, basically”. I see that as a personal bias against him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argoriffic View Post
    No surprise. Hamilton didn’t give up assets to not sign him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    The first online definition I found for "bias" was: "prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair." No reference to who is doing such "considering," but FTR I don't see any "unfairness" in my judgment that Fajardo is not a guy I'd want as my team's QB. I'd be comfortable calling it "aversion," certainly. I'm not actually disputing that Fajardo might be "better," on some level, than Caleb, Shiltz or Prukop, but that doesn't make me like him.
    Paul, do you feel like Fajardo isn't mentally strong enough, given his reaction to the criticism that he has received from Riders fans?
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    So looking forward to seeing Bovine lead the Pussycats to dead last in the East this season; and to the Argo D getting to play against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    So looking forward to seeing Bovine lead the Pussycats to dead last in the East this season; and to the Argo D getting to play against him.
    Last season Chris Jones gifted Hamilton C David Beard, which really seemed to solidify Hamilton’s O line. They really struggled in the middle until then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilthethrill View Post
    Last season Chris Jones gifted Hamilton C David Beard, which really seemed to solidify Hamilton’s O line. They really struggled in the middle until then.
    Oh, the Ticats have some weapons on offence: receivers like White (the better one), Dunbar, Addison (injured last year), and late season addition Johnson (?) are a pretty good group IMO; and that bigger back Hills was impressive, to team with Thomas-Erlington (best yds/carry average on any RB in the league last season); I just think they are going to be in for a let-down with Bovine missing open targets often, getting sacked a bunch; plus being a bit of an ego-head / me first type that is not much of a leader at the position - his plenty of big game play-off losses in his Stumps career speak volumes IMO; and those were years ago when his arm and game were stronger and younger.

    We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    Paul, do you feel like Fajardo isn't mentally strong enough, given his reaction to the criticism that he has received from Riders fans?
    Lack of mental toughness and a me-first attitude, for starters.
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    The uncertainty of our QB situation is somewhat concerning. It appears there is a fairly reasonable chance that MBT may retire. If that does occur and Kelly attracts any interest from an NFL team, we will have no experienced QB on the roster. Yes, I realize the chances of Kelly flying off to the NFL are not high but the possibility exists.

    If MBT does return there is a good chance Kelly, who strongly wants to be a starter, will ask to be traded. If MBT retires and Kelly becomes the team's starter, the team will need a good backup. In either case the Argos will likely need to sign a QB with at least some CFL playing experience.

    Caleb Evans, Shiltz and even Prukop are free agents who might fit the bill if they are not signed by their present teams. However, the most experienced QBs who should be available are Dane Evans and Fajardo. Both come with some baggage but both have demonstrated the ability to be a winning QB in the past. Both have, admittedly, shown a lack of mental toughness. However, Fajardo (sorry Paul) would be my choice. There is a proviso, however that either could be attained without giving up very much in a trade. If either of their teams play hard ball and demand too much in return in a trade, I'd go out on a limb and try to trade for Tre Ford.

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