QBs, so ...

[paulwoods13]

I think Paul was talking about Caleb Evans. I’m with you on Dane Evans.

Paul, personally I don’t get where you think Arbuckle or Evans would be better than Fajardo. Must pre a personal preference here, but I would take Fajardo over both of them any day of the week.

No, I was referring to Dane, and yes, I think either guy would be better than Fajardo. I don't want Fajardo here, period. I'd take Caleb Evans, Shiltz, O'Connor or Prukop over him. I can't stand the guy, basically.

[AngeloV]

No, I was referring to Dane, and yes, I think either guy would be better than Fajardo. I don't want Fajardo here, period. I'd take Caleb Evans, Shiltz, O'Connor or Prukop over him. I can't stand the guy, basically.

I’ll say this with all respect. You’re nuts. Dane Evans is the only one I would take, although I would like to see O’Connor get a shot. The rest are nowhere near as good as Fajardo. But your bias against him has come out with your last sentence, so I will take it with a grain of salt.

[paulwoods13]

Except we don't know whether O'Connor was legitimately injured. If he was, the GOB-7-only-need-apply theory doesn't necessarily hold water.

[OV Argo]

Except we don't know whether O'Connor was legitimately injured. If he was, the GOB-7-only-need-apply theory doesn't necessarily hold water.

That's true; but interesting, we never saw any updates on his injury status or questions about their supposed #2 QB returning ?; he was not carried off the field and remained on the sidelines after it happened, and I believe he still dressed for all games after or at least was not on the IR (?).

We'll see if he re-signs in BC or elsewhere in the CFL.

[OV Argo]

And now, 3 Down reporting on supposed trade rumors of Kelly to the green Riders? So, MBT returns, Kelly refuses to wait around as a back-up anymore and demands a trade to QB desperate Riders where he will get all sorts of attention in the football fishbowl there ?

["Issues"Mcgee]

And now, 3 Down reporting on supposed trade rumors of Kelly to the green Riders? So, MBT returns, Kelly refuses to wait around as a back-up anymore and demands a trade to QB desperate Riders where he will get all sorts of attention in the football fishbowl there ?

Listen to the radio interview the article links to. Kelly is not demanding a trade. That article is lousy.

[Argo57]

Listen to the radio interview the article links to. Kelly is not demanding a trade. That article is lousy.

3Down seems to be travelling down the “tabloid journalism” path more and more these days.

[ArgofanIan]

hard to warm up to Former Ticats playing for the ARRGOs because of the rivalry. Banks had some effective plays last year but if he messed up I would tell my son he was from Hamilton. Hope we don't sign Evans... hoping MBT comes back...or we develop someone new ... I am OK with Fajardo or any one of the other guys...

[Argoriffic]

Well the other QB will NOT be BLM:

https://twitter.com/TSNDaveNaylor/st...089713664?s=20

[AngeloV]

Well the other QB will NOT be BLM:

https://twitter.com/TSNDaveNaylor/st...089713664?s=20

No surprise. Hamilton didn’t give up assets to not sign him.

["Issues"Mcgee]

Booooo Levi Mitchell. He's dead to me. Dead. Vendetta!!!!

[OV Argo]

So looking forward to seeing Bovine lead the Pussycats to dead last in the East this season; and to the Argo D getting to play against him.

[gilthethrill]

So looking forward to seeing Bovine lead the Pussycats to dead last in the East this season; and to the Argo D getting to play against him.

Last season Chris Jones gifted Hamilton C David Beard, which really seemed to solidify Hamilton’s O line. They really struggled in the middle until then.

[OV Argo]

Last season Chris Jones gifted Hamilton C David Beard, which really seemed to solidify Hamilton’s O line. They really struggled in the middle until then.

Oh, the Ticats have some weapons on offence: receivers like White (the better one), Dunbar, Addison (injured last year), and late season addition Johnson (?) are a pretty good group IMO; and that bigger back Hills was impressive, to team with Thomas-Erlington (best yds/carry average on any RB in the league last season); I just think they are going to be in for a let-down with Bovine missing open targets often, getting sacked a bunch; plus being a bit of an ego-head / me first type that is not much of a leader at the position - his plenty of big game play-off losses in his Stumps career speak volumes IMO; and those were years ago when his arm and game were stronger and younger.

We shall see.

[Shatto]

The uncertainty of our QB situation is somewhat concerning. It appears there is a fairly reasonable chance that MBT may retire. If that does occur and Kelly attracts any interest from an NFL team, we will have no experienced QB on the roster. Yes, I realize the chances of Kelly flying off to the NFL are not high but the possibility exists.

If MBT does return there is a good chance Kelly, who strongly wants to be a starter, will ask to be traded. If MBT retires and Kelly becomes the team's starter, the team will need a good backup. In either case the Argos will likely need to sign a QB with at least some CFL playing experience.

Caleb Evans, Shiltz and even Prukop are free agents who might fit the bill if they are not signed by their present teams. However, the most experienced QBs who should be available are Dane Evans and Fajardo. Both come with some baggage but both have demonstrated the ability to be a winning QB in the past. Both have, admittedly, shown a lack of mental toughness. However, Fajardo (sorry Paul) would be my choice. There is a proviso, however that either could be attained without giving up very much in a trade. If either of their teams play hard ball and demand too much in return in a trade, I'd go out on a limb and try to trade for Tre Ford.

[ArgoRavi]

Lack of mental toughness and a me-first attitude, for starters.

I understand those concerns about Fajardo but still have hope that he can change in the right situation.

The uncertainty of our QB situation is somewhat concerning. It appears there is a fairly reasonable chance that MBT may retire. If that does occur and Kelly attracts any interest from an NFL team, we will have no experienced QB on the roster. Yes, I realize the chances of Kelly flying off to the NFL are not high but the possibility exists.

If MBT does return there is a good chance Kelly, who strongly wants to be a starter, will ask to be traded. If MBT retires and Kelly becomes the team's starter, the team will need a good backup. In either case the Argos will likely need to sign a QB with at least some CFL playing experience.

Caleb Evans, Shiltz and even Prukop are free agents who might fit the bill if they are not signed by their present teams. However, the most experienced QBs who should be available are Dane Evans and Fajardo. Both come with some baggage but both have demonstrated the ability to be a winning QB in the past. Both have, admittedly, shown a lack of mental toughness. However, Fajardo (sorry Paul) would be my choice. There is a proviso, however that either could be attained without giving up very much in a trade. If either of their teams play hard ball and demand too much in return in a trade, I'd go out on a limb and try to trade for Tre Ford.

You acknowledge that chances are not strong that we would lose Kelly to the NFL. I will go one step further and say that the chances of Kelly landing an NFL contract this off-season are non-existent. He is simply not on that league's radar.

I think that we will have some clarity on the QB situation within the next week or so. If MBT decides to return, great; if he doesn't, then it is Kelly's job to lose. If it's the latter case, then the Argos should sign another veteran QB. I am intrigued with the idea of bringing Michael O'Connor back myself but Cody Fajardo could be a decent fit behind Kelly, although I absolutely understand Paul's concerns.

[argolio]

Fajardo is easily the best of those mentioned if healthy, though I'd be really concerned about his knee. Caleb Evans and Prukop are turnover machines. Dane Evans can't keep emotions in check. Schlitz might actually be the best option for a backup.

I'm assuming O'Connor will stay in BC.

[OV Argo]

Fajardo is easily the best of those mentioned if healthy, though I'd be really concerned about his knee. Caleb Evans and Prukop are turnover machines. Dane Evans can't keep emotions in check. Schlitz might actually be the best option for a backup.

I'm assuming O'Connor will stay in BC.

I think I read BC have signed 2 new American QBs? I'll bet O'Connor is done there and perhaps in the CFL altogether; the Lions could sign Pipkin still as #2 behind Adams and then develop one of the new young guys.

QBs like Shlitz or Prukop are 3rd stringers at best; much rather develop a new guy over proven mediocres. Caleb Evans beat the Argos last season running that pop-gun RedBlacks offence; he's still young and could develop into a solid starter IMO - i'll bet the RedBlacks go with him behind Masoli over average at best Arbuckle.

[gilthethrill]

So if Mitchell gets 500K+ in Hamilton after losing his job in Calgary, if MBT decides he wants to play in 2023, what is he worth after winning a GC as a starter?

[Argo57]

So if Mitchell gets 500K+ in Hamilton after losing his job in Calgary, if MBT decides he wants to play in 2023, what is he worth after winning a GC as a starter?

I’d say he has earned a $500k contract at this point.